Romero I's Experience
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Experience description:
I was in a house similar to the home where we
now live (my parents house), my wife and grandson were there, we were sleeping
with him because of circumstanaces around the loss of our daughter, and as is
the custom the child moves all the time, leaving me only a small space in the
bed when suddenly due to the position they were in I was upside down, with an
arm supported on the pillow, I felt something going out from above my head,
somehow I knew that I was dreaming, and then it changed into a lucid dream, or
something very similar.
I remember a couple of experiences that I had
when I was little, something similar that allowed me to rise, my head began to
buzz and from there the sensation began to spread to the whole of my body, I
felt as if my body trembled a little, my legs started to move in an involuntary
way, and it was as if something wanted to come out of them. I was anxious I
began to come out of myself and “spread myself” around I arose in a transparent
body, of blue heavenly light. I saw myself in the distance, I went through the
walls, and I began to look for something, I didn't know what it was, maybe the
anxiety of the experience stopped me from focusing, I couldn't get up and fly as
with the previous times, and I began running through the streets, but to me it
was like a parrallel universe, it
dragged me through places, including flat moist grassland, there were little
puddles of water, but at great speed and something made me return to my body,
which was still lying in the same position, with my wife and grandson at my side,
but again my head began buzzing, and I started to feel myself spreading, I felt
the tremours in my legs, and i started to see this body, of heavenly blue light
that left, I really wanted it, now I had a clear objective, I just did it with
the idea of seeing my deceased daughter that had died a little over three months
previously. And to talk to her.
Again I passed through the walls, my house
continued to look the same as the one where I live, when strangely and suddenly
my wife and my grandson were going down the stairs like ours, and I passed by
them flying in front of them. They didn't see me, and it was as if I understood
that this was the moment to look for my daughter,
I
walked around, until I found myself in a cottage, flying at great speed, and I
found her. Oh my God! How happy I am! I shouted her name, she seemed as if she
didn't hear me. I entered from the back door, where there was an estuary
bordering the land, it was a small rural town, I spoke to her and it seemed that
she couldn't see me, she gave the impression that she was with her family, her
husband was a type of tall man wearing a hat, with chestnut hair, mustache, and
something of a beard, quite stocky, with jeans and a shirt, a little girl or boy
was there and was running around, they had their appliances and white goods,
they were tallking about them, she was lovely, slim, and her hair a little
short, and dyed dark blonde, dressed simply with trousers and a plaid blouse, a
bit different to her usual way of dressing, when she was alive she was dedicated
to art, she was a singer.
It was
the afternoon, I insisted in talking to them and tried to touch her but I
couldn't, my hands went straight through her, it troubled me, I looked at her
husband, confused and it was as if I blamed him, I tried to hit him, but I
couldn't. Nothing happened, I gave up hope, and I fled running towards the door,
I flew again shouting “Noooo!!” I was flying so rapidly, that things changed
their shape, they turned into coloured spots, and all I wanted was to stop, I
didn't want to carry on living, (Maybe I wasn't alive) I began to see a point of
light on the edge of my space, I just wanted to go to that point, and suddenly I
went through a tunnel, but it wasn't a tunnel made of substances of our universe,
it was a tunnel formed by the torsion of space on itself, and the light at the
end all the while became greater, and I approached the end of it, a mountain of
images of my life appeared from everywhere thousands and thousands surrounded
me, curiously I felt good, it was like returning home, a home where everyone
loves you, and cares for you. I jumped out of the tunnel, and there were “people”,
or presences representing these people, Lots of light, a feeling of being
surrounded with the imeasureable, with the infinite, everything around was like
a plasma of clouds, lights, peacefulness, and tranquility, that I craved so much,
I wanted to stay there, and suddenly I remembered my family in this bed that I
had left, I missed them and something told me that it wasn't my time, not said
in words, but this was the message “It's not your time” my body felt thrown from
the waist, and a very strong attraction made me return, although I wanted to
stay in this lovely place, so much mine, but at great speed I came back to my
body, and my life, with all it's habits, sadnesses, nostalgias, and despairs...
I awoke
in the dream, and I also awoke from the dream, in the same positon that i saw
myself when I left my body... Everything was so real, I asked myself if I had
lived in another reality, I would have visited another parrallel universe, where
my daughter was alive, and where I couldn't interact because I didn't belong to
that physical environment, and I would have prefered to end this existence...
everything was so real... I spent days thinking about this experience, sometimes
I prefer to assimilate it, as a dreamlike construction of something or someone,
to teach me that what happens in the process of death and in this way maybe I
would be able to apply it to this terrible pain that I carry.
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Some events can't be explained with the
ordinary words of the language, as for example, the composition of space, the
source of light, parallel realities curved space and above all the tunnel.
Almost from the beginning the experience I was
aware of everything, my reality, that of my daughter, that of the environment,
etc.
I knew that this was an unusual experience, and
tried to gather all the information possible, focusing on details.
I have suffedred from myopia from the age of
twelve or thirteen, and I can't see well without my contact lenses, but during
this experience everything was perfectly visible, with a great amount of detail.
Happiness, worry, disapointment that my
daughter couldn't sence my presence, anger, desire, tranquility and profound
peace when I entered and left the tunnel.
The tunnel appeared before me, like a method of
communication with another space, another dimension or reality, but it was not
something made of materials pertaining to our universe and necessary for its
permanence, it was something more like a twist in space, in itself, as if the
only wall of the tunnel we know is circular, which should correspond to space
curving in on itself, translucent up to a certain point.
I wouldn't be able to determine the source of
the light of space where I arrived then the tunnel, I was everywhere. When I
experienced the exit from my body, there was a presence of heavenly blue light
which came out.
Yes I was aware that I had to look for my
daughter that had passed on, a little more than
three monthis previously, I found her but in a different reality, like a
parallel universe, where she lived, and I couldn't participate in it, I wanted
to talk to her, and to touch her but I couldn't.
I saw less detailed scenes from my life, in the
tunnel, thousands of images that passed by me.
Unrecognizible in that moment, but seconds later
familiarly pleasant, with the sensation of belonging to this place.
I lost sense of time.
I understood that spreading was a natural
process, and the tunnel, as was the place where I arrived, the light, the peace,
the tranquility and the knowledge.
I think it is a natural process of the
evolution of life.
Yes it seemed very familiar a journey to
another place, the tunnel, the attraction, and the place where I had arrived.
Yes a common procession and a return to our
origin.
Yes more than that of love, an overdose of
peace and tranquility when I arrived at the place after the tunnel.
During your experience, did you encounter any other specific
information / awareness that you have not shared in other questions that is
relevant to living our earthly lives?
Yes
Encontrarme en un universo paralelo donde mi hija vivía y yo no.
Esa experiencia me tiene muy inquieto.
I found myself in a parallel universe where my daughter lived, and I
didn't. This experience made me very anxious.
My experience seemed to be constructed so that
I should experience the transition to far away, and become conscious that
parallel universes actually exist.
The journey to far away was very consistent,
but not the parralel universes, of an existence where I couldn't participate.
I never accepted the “truth” of western religions,
basically christians, although I had seen that eastern philosophies were very
rich, and I preferred Budhism and its agreement with physical events. Now my
spiritual riches are based on the acquisition of knowledge, and the certainty of
life after death.
Yes in the possible existence after death and
the probability of living in parallel universes. The only thing I am not clear
about is the division of the spirit in different experiences, in different
universes.
To see my daughter in another parralel life and
the return to our source.
Yes that night I mentioned to my wife, the next
day to my parents, and a person in a group on the internet.
Yes The Dr. Elizabeth Kübler, The
Dr. Michael Newton and other doctors, whose names I don't presently remember.
It was a very real experience. Very intense, very vivid.
Yes. I want more experience, I want to try an
NDE through meditation.
Yes I believe so, maybe the part dealing with
visiting other realities wasn't well thought out, in asking the questions, but
is to me, fundamental.
What could a
national organization with an interest in near death experience (NDE) do that
would be of interest to you?
Tener voluntarios, como los donantes, de que su posible muerte pueda ser
constatada y filmada en laboratorios, y la información del entorno pueda ser
corroborada por un grupo previamente preparado de experimentación, sin apegos
religiosos, solo buscando la verdad de la continuidad de la vida.
To have volunteers, as with benefactors, such that there possible deaths could
be recorded and filmed in laboratories, and the information of the environmnet
could be corroborated by a group previously prepared by experimentation, without
religious attachments, just looking for the truth about life after death.
Estaba en una casa parecida al lugar donde actualmente vivimos (casa de mis
padres), estaban mi esposa y mi nieto, dormíamos con él por las circunstancias
que atravesamos de la perdida de nuestra hija, y como es costumbre el niño se
movía a cada momento, relegándome a un pequeño espacio en la cama, de repente en
la posición en que estaba, boca abajo y con un brazo apoyado en la almohada,
sentí que algo salía por la parte de arriba de mi cráneo, de alguna manera sabía
que estaba soñando y se transformó en un sueño lúcido o algo parecido, recordé
un par de experiencias que tuve cuando era joven de algo parecido al
desdoblamiento y me dejé llevar, mi cabeza comenzó a zumbar y desde allí esa
sensación se extendía al resto del cuerpo, sentí mi mis miembros temblando un
poco, las piernas iniciaban un movimiento involuntario, y parecía que algo
quería emerger de él, tenía ansiedad porque volviera a salir y comencé a
'desprenderme', se levantaba un cuerpo transparente y de luces azules y
celestes. Me ví afuera, salí por las paredes y comencé a buscar algo, no sabía
que era, tal vez la ansiedad de la experiencia no me dejaba enfocarme, no podía
alzar el vuelo como las veces anteriores, y comencé a recorrer calles, pero se
asemejaba a una realidad paralela, me arrastraba por lugares, incluso entre
terrenos llenos de hierba y húmedos, con pequeños charcos de agua, pero a mucha
velocidad, algo ocurrió y regresé a mi cuerpo, seguía acostado en la misma
posición y mi esposa y mi nieto a mi lado, otra vez la cabeza comenzó a zumbarme
y volví a sentir ese desprenderme, sentí los temblores en las piernas y volví a
ver aquel cuerpo de luz azulada y celeste que salía, lo anhelaba profundamente,
ahora tenía un objetivo claro, solo lo hacía con la idea de ver a mi hija
fallecida hace poco más de tres meses, y conversar con ella, volví a atravesar
las paredes, mi casa seguía siendo muy parecida a la que vivo, de repente y
extrañamente mi esposa y mi nieto bajaban por una escalera como la nuestra y yo
pasé volando delante de ellos, no me vieron y era como entender que era el
momento de buscar a mi hija, recorrí lugares, hasta que dí en una casa de campo,
volaba a gran velocidad, la encontré, oh Dios, que felicidad la mía, le grité
por su nombre, ella pareció no escucharme. Entré por una puerta trasera donde
tenían un estero delimitando el terreno, parecía una pequeña ciudad rural, le
hablé y parecía no verme, daba la impresión que estaba con su familia, su esposo
era un tipo alto con sombrero, de cabello castaño, bigote y algo de barba, un
tanto fornido, con jean y camisa, una niña o niño pequeño estaba con ellos y
corría, tenían sus enseres y electrodomésticos, hablaban entre ellos, ella
estaba preciosa, delgada, y su cabello un poco corto y pintado de rubio oscuro,
vestía sencilla con pantalón y blusa de cuadros, un poco distinto a su habitual
manera de vestirse cuando vivía dedicada al arte, ella era cantautora, era de
tarde, insistí en hablarle e intenté tocarla y no pude, mis manos la
atravesaron, me molesté, miré a su esposo confundido y como encontrando culpa en
él, intenté golpearlo y tampoco pude, no sucedía nada, me desesperé y salí
corriendo hacia la puerta, volé nuevamente gritando ¡nooo!, volaba tan rápido
que las cosas perdían su forma, se transformaban en manchas de colores, y solo
pensaba que prefería que termine todo, no quería seguir viviendo (tal vez ni
siquiera lo estaba), comencé a ver un punto de luz en la frontera de mi espacio,
solía quería ir al punto, y repentinamente atravesaba un túnel, pero no era un
túnel construido correspondiendo a la materialidad de nuestro universo, era un
túnel formado por la torsión del espacio sobre sí mismo, y la luz al final se
hacía cada vez mas grande, me acercaba al final del mismo, un montón de imágenes
con hechos de mi vida aparecían por todas partes, miles y miles rodeándome, y
curiosamente me sentía bien, era como el retornar al hogar, el lugar donde todos
te aman y te cuidan, salí del túnel de un salto y había 'gente' o presencias
representando a esas gentes, mucha luz, una sensación de estar rodeado por lo
inconmensurable, por lo infinito, todo alrededor era como un plasma de nubes,
luces, tranquilidad y la paz que tanto anhelaba, quería quedarme allí y de
pronto recordé a los míos en esa cama que había dejado, los extrañé y algo me
dijo que no era mi momento, no expresado en palabras pero ese era el mensaje,
“no es tu momento”, mi cuerpo sintió un tirón desde la cintura, una atracción
muy fuerte me hacía regresar aunque yo quería permanecer en ese lugar “tan mío”,
a toda velocidad retorné a mi cuerpo, y a mi vida, con todos los habituales, sus
tristezas, nostalgias y desesperanza... desperté en el sueño y también desperté
del sueño, en la misma posición que me ví cuando salí de mi cuerpo... Todo fue
tan real, me pregunto si habré vivido otra realidad, habré visitado un universo
paralelo donde mi hija estaba viva y donde yo no podía interactuar porque no
pertenecía a ese entorno físico, y prefería terminar con esta existencia... todo
fue tan real... llevo días pensando en esa experiencia, a veces prefiero
asimilarla como una construcción onírica de algo o alguien, para enseñarme que
sucede en la experiencia de la muerte y así tal vez logre aplacar un tanto este
dolor que llevo.
At the time of your experience was there an associated life-threatening event?
No
Was the experience difficult to express in words?
Uncertain
Algunos eventos no
podrían ser explicados con palabras habituales del lenguaje, como por ejemplo,
la composición del espacio, la fuente de luz, realidades paralelas, espacio
curvándose sobre sí mismo en el túnel.
At what time during the experience were you at
your highest level of
consciousness and alertness?
practicamente
desde que inició la experiencia tomé consciencia de todo, mi realidad, la de mi
hija, la del entorno, etc.
How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience
compare to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness?
More consciousness and alertness than normal
Sabía que esta era una experiencia atípica y trataba de
captar toda la información posible, fijarme en detalles.
Please compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that
you had immediately prior to the time of the experience.
Padezco de miopía desde los 12 o 13 años, y no puedo ver
bien sin mis lentes, en esta experiencia todo era perfectamente visible, con una
gran capacidad del detalle.
Please compare your hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that
you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. Normal
Did you see or hear any earthly events that were occurring during a time that
your consciousness / awareness was apart from your physical / earthly body?
No
What emotions did you feel during the experience?
Felicidad, ansiedad, decepción de que mi hija
no perciba mi presencia, rabia, anhelo, tranquilidad y profunda paz cuando
ingresé y salí del túnel.
Did you pass into or through a tunnel?
Yes
El túnel apareció
ante mí como una vía de comunicación con otro espacio, otra dimensión o
realidad, pero no era algo construido con elementos materiales propios de
nuestro universo y necesarios para su permanencia, era algo más parecido a una
torsión del espacio sobre sí mismo, como si la pared única del túnel, ya que era
circular, correspondiera a un espacio curvándose sobre si mismo, translúcido
hasta cierto momento.
Did you see an unearthly light?
Uncertain
No podría
determinar la fuente de luz del espacio donde llegué luego del túnel, estaba en
todas partes. Cuando experimenté la salida de mi cuerpo, era una presencia de
luz azulada con celeste la que emergía.
Did you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an
unidentifiable voice?
No
Did you encounter or become aware of any beings who previously lived on earth
who are described by name in religions (for example: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha,
etc.)?
No
Did you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings?
Yes
Si, estaba consciente que tenía que buscar a mi
hija fallecida hace poco más de tres meses, la ubiqué, pero en una realidad
diferente, como un universo paralelo donde ella vivía y yo no participaba de él,
quise hablar con ella, incluso tocarla pero no pude.
Did you become aware of past events in your life during your experience?
Uncertain
Ví escenas no detalladas de mi vida en el túnel, miles de imágenes que
pasaban a mi alrededor.
Did you seem to enter some other, unearthly world?
Some unfamiliar and strange place
Desconocido en ese momento, pero con el pasar de los segundos familiarmente
agradable, con la sensación de pertenencia al hogar.
Did time seem to speed up or slow down?
Everything
seemed to be happening at once; or time stopped or lost all meaning
Perdí sentido del tiempo
Did you suddenly seem to understand everything?
Everything about
myself or others
Entendía que era un proceso natural el desprendimiento, el túnel, el lugar donde
llegué, la luz, la paz, la tranquilidad, y el conocimiento.
Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure?
No
Did you come to a border or point of no return?
I came to a barrier that I was not permitted to cross; or was sent
back against my will
Did scenes from the future come to you?
No
During your experience, did you encounter any
specific information / awareness suggesting that there either is (or is not)
continued existence after earthly life (“life after death”)?
Yes
Me pareció un proceso natural de evolución de la vida.
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
that God or a supreme being either does (or does not) exist?
No
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
that you either did (or did not) exist prior to this lifetime?
Yes
Me pareció muy
familiar el viaje hacia el otro espacio, el túnel, la atracción y el espacio
donde llegué
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
that a mystical universal connection or unity/oneness either does (or does not)
exist?
Yes
Una procedencia común y un retorno hacia el origen.
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
regarding earthly life’s meaning or purpose?
Yes
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
regarding earthly life’s difficulties, challenges, or hardships?
No
During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
regarding love?
Yes
Más que del amor, una sobredosis de paz y tranquilidad cuando llegué al
espacio luego del túnel.
Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge or purpose?
Yes
Mi experiencia parecía construida para que yo viviera el tránsito hacia el
más allá y la conciencia de que existen universos paralelos de existencia.
What occurred during your experience included:
Content that was both consistent and not
consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your exp
Era muy consistente en el viaje al más allá, pero no de la
existencia de universos paralelos de existencia donde yo no participara.
How accurately do you remember the experience in comparison to other life events
that occurred around the time of the experience?
I
remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred
around the time of th
Discuss any changes that might have occurred in your life after your experience:
Nunca acepté
la 'verdad' de las religiones occidentales, básicamente las cristianas, aunque
veía mucha riqueza en las filosofías orientalistas, preferentemente en el
budismo, y su coincidencia con eventos de la física.
Ahora, mi riqueza espiritual, se fundamenta en adquirir el conocimiento y la
seguridad de la vida después de la muerte.
My experience directly resulted in:
Unknown
Did you have any changes in your values or beliefs after the experience that
occurred as a result of the experience?
Yes
Si, en la posible existencia después de la muerte y la probabilidad de
'vivir' en universos paralelos. Lo único que no me quedaría claro aún es la
división del espíritu en experiencias distintas en universos distintos.
Do you have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your
experience that you did not have before the experience?
No
Are there one or several parts of your experience that are especially meaningful
or significant to you?
Ver a mi hija en otra vida paralela y el
retorno el origen.
Have you ever shared this experience with others?
Yes
La misma noche le comenté a mi esposa, al siguiente día a mis padres y a una
persona de un grupo en internet.
Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your
experience?
Yes
La Dra. Elizabeth Kübler, El Dr. Michael Newton y otros doctores de los
cuales no recuerdo el nombre en este momento.
What did you believe about the reality of your experience shortly (days to
weeks) after it happened:
Experience was probably real
Fue una experiencia tan vívida, tan intensa, tan 'real'...
What do you believe about the reality of your experience at the current time:
Experience was probably real
Fue una experiencia tan vívida, tan intensa, tan'real'...
It was a very real experience. Very intense, very vivid.
Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your
experience?
No
Have your religious beliefs/spiritual practices changed
specifically as a result of your experience?
Yes
Deseo más experiencia, deseo intentar por medio
de la meditación una ECM
At any time in your life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the
experience?
No
Did the questions asked and information that you provided accurately and
comprehensively describe your experience?
Yes
Creo que sí, quizá la parte de visitar realidades paralelas no está
contemplada en el cuestionario de preguntas y me parece fundamental.
Are
there any other questions that we could ask to help you communicate your
experience?
Si se tuvieron experiencias de haber visitado realidades alternativas, como
'universos paralelos'