Kathy T's Experience
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Experience description:
I had been very ill with a barbaric treatment for hepatitis C called
rebviron and interferon. My blood levels were dangerously low and I was taking
another drug called Procrat to raise my red blood cells because the were so
dangerously low. It was a trial study and there was little compassion or help
for my condition. I had developed fluid on my lungs and heart and when I lay
down to go to sleep my chest felt so heavy I could hardly breath. I did not know
if I would wake up or not, so I made my peace with God every night before I went
to sleep. I had also developed low immune deficiency dermatitis around my eyes.
The skin around my eyes peeled twice at least and they were purple and red like
I had been beaten, but I had not been beaten. I had learned not to cry because
it irritated the dermatitis around my eyes so badly that it felt like poison
ivy, so for about three moths I did not cry. This was very hard for me, as I
needed very much to cry.
On the morning of August 17, 2001 about 7:30 AM,
I started to cry, I didn't care anymore, I also had insomnia really bad
and had been up all night. I said to Jesus 'I can't take it anymore, and if you
want me, I'm ready to go and will you show me the way'. I went up into big white
puff clouds, the sky was a soft pale blue. I found myself in what I can only
describe as a womb. I could hear the most beautiful sound. And at one point I
could see the sound, it was long bars going up to heaven, one beside the other.
I remember saying that is the most beautiful sound I've ever heard!!! and I
could stay here forever, it's so peaceful! I could faintly make light out beyond
where I was. I was floating and enjoying this place, I truly could of stayed
there forever. All of a sudden I came up to another plane. I saw thousands of
white, beautiful Angels or beings. And I said 'oh, that's where the beautiful
sounds coming from'. One Angel came to me and
we communed telepathically. She looked at me with such love and
compassion. She could see everything there was about me, there was nothing I
could hide, although I did not want to hide anything. She was pure white and
iridescent with form but without form, it's hard to put it into words, but she
was beautiful and full of pure love and compassion. She lead me over to the
right past other angels to the far right. I was stunned at the beauty all around
me. It was pure white and sprinkling like snow when the sun hits it, (but not
cold) and there were jewels all at my feet. I was in awe! And all the while I
could hear that beautiful sound. She and I commune telepathically again, and
then she turned me around to Angel lined path and at the end of the path was the
Light. It was soft, warm glowing like the sun but did not hurt my eyes.
It was irresistible! I was drawn irresistibly to it. I kept getting
closer and closer to the Light, it was irresistible and I could not stop. I
started feeling afraid because I knew that if I kept going I could not come back
or would not want to come back (I was not sure which one). But I kept inching
closer and closer to the irresistible light. I could see two lights making one
light, on the right side was Jesus' and the left was God. The father and the son
made one resistible white. I got to a point where I had to make a decision to
keep going or pullback. I saw my daughter and my husband embracing and I could
feel their pain from my death. At that point there was not a decision to be
make, I would come back for them. At the end of my experience and before I left
the outskirts of Heaven I telepathically commune with The Lord God. He was very
busy doing what God does! I did not see him face to face. Again, to hard to put
into words. But I could see there was a ridge to the left of us and if I had
gone through their, I was not coming back. It was a threshold to the after life.
God told me it was not my time, but if I needed to stay, I could. He said when
it was my time he wanted me back, that I was a part of him, and
that He loved me. I don't remember the coming back, but when I came back
I was so torn because I felt like I had blown my chance at Heaven. I told my
husband what had happened as he was getting ready for work. He thought I had
lost my mind, he's looked at me like I was crazy. I told my daughter and she
said if I needed to go that it was ok. I called my sister and we talked about
it, and that evening I wrote it all down. I could already feel some detail
fading. For weeks after this beautiful experience I cry end when I say clouds
and even this started to fade after awhile . I went over this daily trying not
to lose it. Although the experience will never leave me some of the details
have. I had a very painful childhood. After my experience It felt like the pain
of my child hood was cut away from me.
I have this vision of a machete just cutting away the pain.
It was all gone, the pain with my mother and my childhood, just cut away.
I have no idea what had happened to me because I've never heard of near
death experience. But I knew I had
been changed forever. But it took me years to sort through what it was, where it
came from, was it good or was it evil. Even though it
was a beautiful experience it left me confused as to where It came from.
I now know it came from God, I read
everything I can on your death experiences. I know there's a God and Jesus and
heaven and that we go back to God when we die.
I also have had two other experience but I'm not going into those now. As this
was the most profound experience of my life.
My NDE happened when I gave up and cried out to the
Lord. Saying if He was ready for me, that I was ready to go.
Seeing Sound is very difficult to explain. I can
still see it but words fail me to tell anyone what I saw or heard. The sound was
so beautiful! It was not music or words. I've tried hard to remember it but I
can't.
Also see God but not seeing him, is hard to
explain, even to myself.
Also the path to the Light was sort of like a
tunnel, as it was darkness all around but where we were.
And at that point she turned me around to an Angels
lined path all the way down to the irresistible Light. On the left side of me
were white angels all the way down to the Light. On the right side of me was
darkness but I felt beings were there. (I know they were there, I just could not
see them and felt nothing bad from them)
I also knew that Jesus and God were the Light at
the end of the path.
At the end of my NDE I telepathically communicated
with God. I did not see God face-to-face but I was in his presence and saw an
allusive form. He told me that if I needed to stay, that I could. But that it
was not my time, and that when it was my time, He wanted me back, that I was a
part of Him. And He told me He loved me. God was very busy while I was with Him,
doing all that God does. It felt like He was fitting this time with me into His
busy schedule. Just past us over my left shoulder was a opening, and a ridge,
beyond that I could not see or go.
From there I went up to another plain and was with
the thousands of Angels.
From there I was shown the path to the Light, which
lead to God and Jesus.
From there I communed with God.
From there I came back to earth. Although I don't
remember the coming back to earth only that I was back in my bed.
While telepathically communicating with God at the
end of my NDE, I saw an opening and ridge over my left shoulder. I could not see
or go beyond the opening and ridge. I believe It was entryway to the afterlife.
And Jesus and God were the Light at the end of the
path.
God told me that He loved me.
Meeting God and communicating with God is not
consistent with my beliefs before my NDE. I was thought that no one has seen
God, accept for the Son.
I was taught that all in Christ will rise on the
day of judgment, so meeting God, Angles and the Light is not consistent with my
beliefs before my NDE.
I have forgotten some of the details of my NDE but
the main core of my NDE will stay with me forever. It changed my life!
I was conflicted before my NDE as if there was a
God and Heaven I now know for sure there is a God and I am at peace with God
now.
I've always been a loving person but I know now
it's all about LovIng others and myself.
I went to see my daughter and told her that day.
She told me if I needed to go I should go. She was compassion and loving about
it and believed me. She and I have a close loving relationship.
I called my sister that day and she believed me and
I told Ed everything in my NDE.
I know each person was influenced but I also know
they still have a shadow of a doubt because they did not experience, it I did.
I talked to a few people about it but in the early
70's it was mostly unknown stuff. And so I let it go. The guide came to me while
I was trying to take a nap. A huge black cap swirled around and above my head,
and I sat up and said NO. The same thing happened again, I said No and on the
third time a female voice said its ok, go with it. And so I did. And the above
happened, although I was not sure what it was at the time, I did know it really
happened to me. And was not a dream.
At the time
of your experience was there an associated life-threatening event?
Uncertain
I'm not sure but I had been very ill. And
out of the hospital for only a few days from unexplained pain in my abdomen.
Was the experience
difficult to express in words?
Yes
in the beginning of my NDE the closest I
can come to the place I was at would be a womb.
At what time during the
experience were you at your highest level of
consciousness and alertness?
From the time I meet with my Angel, and then
drawn to the Light and then meet with God.
How did your highest level
of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal
everyday consciousness and alertness?
More consciousness and alertness than normal
I'm not sure how to answer this but when you go to heaven and visit with
Angels and God you are alert and in awe.
Please
compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that you had
immediately prior to the time of the experience.
I'm not sure how to answer this. But I saw beautiful things in that heavenly
realm. Rich beautiful jewels at my feet. But I don't remember having a
heightened sense of vision.
Please
compare your hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that you had
immediately prior to the time of the experience.
Again, I don't remember a heightened sense of
hearing. Only that I heard the most beautiful sound I've ever heard in that
heavenly realm,
Did you see
or hear any earthly events that were occurring during a time that your
consciousness / awareness was apart from your physical / earthly body?
Yes
I Saw and Felt the pain of my husband and
daughter if I were dead. They were bracing and comforting each other. I felt
like I was looking down on them.
What emotions did you feel
during the experience?
Love Joy Peace
Did you pass into or
through a tunnel?
Uncertain
The best I can explain it was in a womb, I
was floating and jetting around inside this semi dark enclosure. I could hear
the most beautiful sound and I was in completely peace! I remember saying 'I
could stay here forever it's so peaceful' and another time I remember saying
'that is the most beautiful sound I've ever heard'!
Did you see an unearthly
light?
Yes
It was bright like the sun, but also It
was soft and warm and didn't hurt my eyes. It was white, but also with pale warm
color. I distinctly remember thinking if it was a pure White Light, how could it
also have warm tones). There were, sparking rays coming out from it into the
darkness. (If I squint into a street light I can see similar rays coming out of
the center). It was irresistible! I saw two lights which made one. It was the
Father and the Son. Jesus' Light was to the right side of the Fathers Light. The
beams went out into the darkness.
Did
you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an unidentifiable
voice?
I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly
origin
When I came up on this next plain, there were
thousands of Angels. I realized that was where the beautiful sound was coming
from, from the Angels. One Angel come over to meet me, she was my guide. She was
pure white and slight iridescent and slightly transparent. She had some form but
also without distinct form. She looked at me with such love and compassion.
We commuted telepathically. She knew everything there was to know about
me, she could see everything that ever was about me. I remember thinking that I
could not hide anything from her. BUT also remember that I did not wanting to
hide anything. There was only truth and I felt nothing bad. It was just an
awareness that I had. She then lead me to the left, passed many Angels (all of
them like her, but there was no communication with them). When we got to the far
left I was awe struck at all the beauty. There were jewels at my feet and around
the landscape. It was also pure white and glistening like when the sun shines on
snow, there were sparkles everywhere. This was not outside, it was in an I
closed area, with darkness all around except for where we were. She got my
attention from being awe struck and we communed telepathically again, I don't
remember the communing being about anything specific. Just her love and
compassion.
Did you encounter or
become aware of any beings who previously lived on earth who are described by
name in religions (for example: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc.)?
Yes
I didn't see Jesus in a human form but it
was He that was part of the Light at the end of the path.
Did
you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings?
No
Did
you become aware of past events in your life during your experience?
No
Did
you seem to enter some other, unearthly world?
A clearly mystical or unearthly realm
After leaving earth
through the puffy, white clouds and pale blue sky, I then SAW the beauty SOUND.
From there I entered into what I feel was a place like womb, it was my dark and
warm and roomy, I floated and netter around inside the place. I could still hear
the beautiful sound and I was in total peace. I remember saying 'I could stay
here forever', also remembered saying 'what is that sound, it's the most beauty
thing I've ever heard'.
Did time seem
to speed up or slow down?
No
Did
you suddenly seem to understand everything?
No
Did you reach a boundary
or limiting physical structure?
Yes
I was aware (and became fearful) that I could not
go any farther toward the Light. Either I couldn't or wouldn't want to come back
to earth if I continued towards the Light. I had to make a decision!
Did
you come to a border or point of no return?
I came to a definite conscious decision to return to life
When I knew I could not go any further without
making a decision, I saw and felt my husband and daughters pain. They were
embracing and comforting each other because of my death. At that point I would
come back for them. I don't remember making a hard, difficult decision. It was
just when I saw and felt there pain, I of course was going back. (I was looking
down on them)
Did scenes from the
future come to you?
No
During
your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness
suggesting that there either is (or is not) continued existence after earthly
life (“life after death”)?
Uncertain
I saw a opening and ridge over my shoulder
while communicating with God. But I was not given any specific information that
it was the afterlife. But I Felt like it was an opening to the afterlife. God
did tell me He wanted me back when it was my time, which indicates to me there
is a afterlife with God.
During
your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that God
or a supreme being either does (or does not) exist?
Yes
I telepathically communicated with God.
During
your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that you
either did (or did not) exist prior to this lifetime?
No
During
your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that a
mystical universal connection or unity/oneness either does (or does not) exist?
No
During your experience,
did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding earthly life’s
meaning or purpose?
No
During your experience,
did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding earthly life’s
difficulties, challenges, or hardships?
No
During your experience,
did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding love?
Yes
I felt adoring love and compassion from my
Angel.
During your experience,
did you encounter any other specific information / awareness that you have not
shared in other questions that is relevant to living our earthly lives?
No
Did you have a sense of
knowing special knowledge or purpose?
No
What occurred during your
experience included:
Content that was both consistent and not consistent
with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience
I have been taught from a small child about God and Jesus, so that was
consistent with my believes.
How accurately do you
remember the experience in comparison to other life events that occurred around
the time of the experience?
I remember the experience more accurately than
other life events that occurred around the time of the experience.
I don't remember much of anything about that time in my life, except that I
was very ill, and on barbaric treatment for hep c.
Discuss any changes
that might have occurred in your life after your experience:
I felt like the pain of my childhood was cut away
from me. I have a mental picture of a machete cutting the pain away, a clean
slicing cut way. After my NDR the pain with my mother was gone. I was very
burden with the pain and angry with my parents for abusive life we had. But
afterward my NDE it was all gone and it was instant after my NDE.
My
experience directly resulted in:
Large changes in my life
Did you have any changes in your values or beliefs after the experience that
occurred as a result of the experience?
Yes
I now know for sure God is real. Where before I was not sure at all.
Do you
have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your experience that
you did not have before the experience?
No
Are there one or several parts of your experience
that are especially meaningful or significant to you?
Everything bit of my NDE is significant and meaningful to me.
Have you ever shared this experience with others?
Yes
I shared with my husband as soon as I came
back. He thought I had lost my mind. I still remember the look on his face and
the distance he sat from me on the bed.
Did you have any knowledge
of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience?
Yes
In the early 70's I has another experience
that was very similar to a NDE. I had a guide that took me down a tunnel and
showed me several rooms off the main tunnel. I only remember one room (of
several) contents, it was color vibrating everywhere. It was beautiful! I wish I
had wrote this experienced down and could remember more. But I did also meet and
talk with deceased people. One man said to me 'don't you not remember me'.. I
wish I had wrote his name down.
What did you believe about
the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened:
Experience was definitely real
I was absolutely sure that it was a real
experience and that It really happened to me. I've never had a doubt that it was
not real. It was REAL!
What do you believe about
the reality of your experience at the current time:
Experience was definitely real
I have never doubted that experience was
not real. I know it was real! I have
wondered at times was it from the evil one but I believe I get that from the
bible. God wins out everything I go there, and wonder about who showed me this
NDE.
Have your relationships
changed specifically as a result of your experience?
Yes
my relationship with my mother changed, I forgave
my mother (parents) for all the pain of my childhood.
Have your religious
beliefs/spiritual practices changed specifically as a result of your experience?
Yes
I know for sure God is real. And now attend church on most Sunday's.
At
any time in your life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the experience?
No
Is there anything else
that you would like to add about your experience?
There was another experienced moments after I came back. I was
afraid I had blow my chance going to heaven. So I tried hard to go back, this
time I went up again in the clouds but was caught in a plane just above the
earth. I was shown black outlines of crude looking figures. They were flashing
fast and Bold (but also still soft). It was very difficult being close to them.
It was like electric shocks. I was jerking all around from being too close, it
was very, very intense! It was more than I could bear, so I pulled away and came
back to my body. This experience was not necessarily bad. It was good and bad,
light and dark. I felt like it was the Evolution of man, and It's no place I
would won't to go back to.
Did
the questions asked and information that you provided accurately and
comprehensively describe your experience?
Yes
these question guide me to explain my NDE.
There are some things I can't not explain with earthly words. I would love to
explain Seeing Sound. But I can not.
Are there any other questions that
we could ask to help you communicate your experience?
I had a some problems answering a few questions
about heighten vision and hearing. I want to answer them accurately but some
things I have forgotten in the 15 years. Maybe a place to say that.