Jonita K's Experience
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Experience description:
I was laying on my
hospital bed, in my friend's arms, we were going through a 'Wee Wisdom"
magazine. I had just lost my sight in my left eye, due to radiation treatment
for my cancer, and I had always wanted to be a nurse, like my mom was. For some
reason I thought due to the loss of sight in my eye that would no longer be
possible, why I thought this I don't know, but I did, but I had never voiced my
concern to anyone, not even my mother. Yet for some unknown reason something
inside of me said/urged me to say so to my friend, an older lady whom my mom and
I had just met through a friend of hers. So I did, I remember saying," I guess
now I won't be able to be a nurse anymore 'cause I can't see in my eye," and I
remember welling up inside, not wanting to let my tears go in front of her, it
felt like a great sadness inside of me. The same as if confessing a great
secret, inner desire or fear. She looked at me and without missing a beat she
said," Well, I don't know about that but I'll tell you what we can do. I can
cross your eye and we can say a little prayer and ask God about it." With that I
agreed and she did so. The prayer I don't remember but we went back to the
magazine and I remember being curled into her side as all of a sudden feeling
VERY tired. The same tiredness as you get from taking an allergy pill. I would
also like to add that there was also no oxygen in the room either before someone
would like to try to discredit my story with that :).
Well I fell asleep
and I thought, at the time, I woke up just as fast feeling like I had rested
after a full night's sleep, though still a little groggy. I remember my friend
saying, " Oh! You're awake" and as I opened my eyes more and began to sit up I
said, 'yep' and the days and months and years carried on.
It wasn't until much
later, in my late teens I started to remember what had happened. Before I go any
further I will also interject that I had another 2 experiences that I classify
as spiritual as well during that time of my cancer. The other two were that 1.
the same lady was given my pain from some nasty stitches I had left to my left
eye after surgery. The doctors were surprised that I was painless, but glad.
They were the ugly big bulky black kind of stitches used in the 80's.The lady
was in Gander NL. while I was in Halifax NS. btw. She had complained to a friend
of hers of this strange, because she never got headaches, strong, aching,
headache she was having the whole day, and for a couple of days after as well.
Her friend took her up to the airport to meet us when we got into Gander, and
mom whispered to me to run to our friend, as, 'she'd like that' so I did and yes
our friend was VERY happy I had. While everyone was catching up, mom had told
them how I was painless and all that had happened and what we were to expect, as
much as we could tell anyways. Our friend and her friend were talking her friend
said to her Now we know why you have that headache. God had taken the pain from
my stitches and placed it on her. The second time, was about the same time as
the other one, and my main story, Though exact times I don't recall, but it was
during the beginning of my treatments...I had to have a cat scan done, the first
I'd ever had....I wasn't scared of the machine or anything, but I remember being
in sooooo much pain, I had an iv in my hand, and a board to keep my hand still,
they had to inject me with dye with a huge needle, that my mother had enough
sense not to let me see. I also recall being extremely tired, and I was crying
blue murder, I was so uncomfortable. So a nurse stayed with me while I had the
scan done, I probably made her deaf with my crying. But she held my hand through
it all and I remember she was squeezing my hand very hard, to the point both our
hands were shaking, and I remember thinking I wish she'd let go, why is she
squeezing so hard?!! and I let my grip loosen on hers to try to let her know
without saying anything to lighten up a little already....I was taught to have
respect for others, especially people older than you and quite often kept my
mouth shut as a result. Well the nurse never did 'lighten up' and I guess, I had
cried myself to sleep....I don't remember going to sleep, just waking up. When I
did wake they were pulling me out of the machine and my mom and the others were
walking into the room again. The nurse walked over to them and I heard my mom
first and then the others ask her what's wrong?!! What happened?!! What did you
do?! And looks of total shock on their faces. My mom looked over at me and then
they hushed it down even more and turning away from me as much as possible. The
nurse looked at mom and said, 'She's, me, going to be alright," in a tearful
voice, low enough that I could barely hear. My mom confirmed that for me years
later. The nurse's hand was covered in very black and blue bruises from her
fingers almost to her elbow, though she made sure I didn't see it. We believe
this to be a second 'grace from God' for a lack of calling it anything else. But
my pain had stopped and I wasn't tired anymore and I did fall asleep during the
scan, something I never did after and I did have many more later.
Ok now back to the
main story if you want to call it that......
well those years were
tough, I lost my hair, went down to less than 48 pounds, lost most of my teeth
at once, bleeding gums, couldn't talk more than 5 steps without tripping.....and
a bunch of other things. Money was much tighter...back then NO ONE would help.
It didn't matter that there was a sick kid who could, and probably would, die
even with treatments, that were completely experimental and had to come from the
USA, or that my parents were retired with very little money...my father was a
much older man. The government wouldn't help, my mother's insurance wouldn't
help, the cancer society wouldn't help, EVER throughout my entire cancer time
did the cancer society EVER help once! A social services worker met us in the
old Janeway in ST. John's when the doctor first discovered what I had saying he
couldn't touch me, couldn't help in any way...he'd have to send me to the Kilam!
I remember THAT conversation very clearly. My mom's faced dropped and she turned
white. She thought what kind of a place is THAT?! For MY child??!! Then the
doctor explained it was in Halifax NS. THAT worker, if you could call the
insensitive thing such a term, told my mom she'd have to show all her bills and
records for the past 5 yrs? Possibly as far back as 10...keep in mind this was
before computers and the internet....my parents had to go around and ask the
groups they were part of for donations, now we only lived in a small town at the
time and filled with mainly retired older people on fixed incomes, and see what
we could get without the government...then they would see what they could do for
us. She made my mother go through everything out in the open, in front of all
staff that were present and the public... and ME. I will NEVER forget that. It
was embarrassing and humbling for my mother to go through it like that and even
the nurse there was in tears for her. She looked at my mom after and said she
wouldn't go to that ' insert ANY word here' if she were my mom. My mother
replied ," I will...for her', me. and the nurse cried again for us. That worker
also wanted to send me alone....Me go somewhere, especially new without my
mom??!!! You have GOT to be kidding lady! I was 5 in the middle of kindergarten
and she wanted me to go on a plane, first time ever, to another province, first
time ever, get through an airport, first time ever, get to the city of Halifax
so they could run tests, WITHOUT my mom??!!! That worker had to be on crack!
Thankfully God provided for us.
Life went on for me
and my family, there's a story there how my father and brother coped without my
mother...but it would make this story even longer, though more meaningful to
anyone who may read this and need the inspiration ...and I may go into further
detail when the time is right. During and after my treatments I always felt
different from the other kids around me. I didn't fit in, in some cases I didn't
want to either. It did sadden me that I didn't have any real friends, but it
wasn't until my mid teens that things really struck a chord with me. My brother
had said one evening that he had seen my report cards from kindergarten, and
judging from them, before my cancer treatments, I was even smarter than he was.
OUCH! He got straight A+s without looking at a book. I had to fight just to get
c's and in math d's. A side affect from radiation to my brain, among many
others. It was then I really started to hate God and everyone around me. Why
me?! What did I do, I didn't ask for anything, why not someone else?! and I went
into a depression that I hid from everyone.
It was just after
these times and when I was at my lowest, that I started remembering things that
had happened that day I was 'taken', for a lack of a better word. My friend
confirmed what I had thought had happened to me many years later when I was
about 25. She said after I had fallen asleep that day with her in the hospital I
had risen off of the bed and was nothing but skin and bones. She says I was
hanging there for 1/2 an hour, but my mom and I figure it was probably max 20
mins cause she wouldn't leave me that long, and she was talking to the doc...I'd
have cried if I weren't glued to her hip.
Well my friend was a
little scared at first but then realized I was with God...She'd gotten a
feeling, and just prayed that I'd come back before my mom and the doc came back
in and saw me floating in the air. Funny thing is after that day God used my
friend to help heal people. If she put her hands on them God would heal them,
whatever they had.
In the time I had
fallen asleep, a sleep that came over me in seconds, and was very peaceful and
natural, like falling asleep in front of the TV, and had woken up a lot had
happened to me. A lot is still lost to me...after I had my time there it was
erased from my mind, I wasn't allowed to remember all I had seen or heard. I had
to go through my life as if nothing had changed. It would serve for the better
good that way.
Anyways,
this is what I do remember....
I was taken into a very
bright white room...everything was bright, it felt like you'd need sunglasses it
was such a strong white, and yet for some reason I didn't need them....in the
room I was with Jesus, how I got there and who brought me I don't remember,
possibly the Holy Spirit??? though I'm pretty sure I saw 'people' maybe
angels???? Though I do think they were people who knew me, ancestors, passed
friends of family that sort of thing, yet the bible tells us the dead know
nothing. They await the resurrection, so I'm not 100% sure on, but they were
humanlike if that helps. I spent A LOT of time with Jesus....it felt like hours
and possibly a day or two, but God did it all in 20 mins of our time. What I
remember is spending a great deal of time in Jesus' arms and talking in this
room, we were sitting on a ledge of some sort. Behind us was water and on wither
side of us were more white walls. I don't remember what He sounded like exactly,
it was more like we talked through our minds than actually speaking words, but
the voice I heard was strong but gentle. As if one were talking to a scared
animal. I remember laying in His arms, being held against His chest and being
comforted. I wasn't sure why, I didn't need comforting at this point in my life,
sure I didn't have everything I wanted, but what kid, or person does...this
comfort felt like it was for the things that were going to come, how true that
was, as you read above. What we talked about in that time I don't remember
either, but after He put me down to sit next to Him on the ledge He showed me
something. I'm told by others it was a book, though what I remember is looking
down into a fountain of still water...like a white well with crystal clear
water. It wasn't very big as such, to be honest the size reminds me of the
'pensive' in the harry potter movies, but it was much nicer than the movie.
I was told to look
into the fountain behind us, though again other people with similar stories,
i.e. Glen Tectford, claim it to be a book... not the book of life but another
that shows the things we will do in our lives and how things we do affect
others. So I looked down and was shown what my life was going to be like. I saw
everything, from where I was currently in my life to everything I was going to
go through. I was shown the people I'd help, even though I didn't know I was
helping them and even those that got help from me but didn't want it....they
just stumbled on their path walking with God because of meeting me.
Then I was shown
what my life would be like if I stayed where I was now in heaven. I saw the
difference and I knew as I watched the first part of facing the treatments I did
not want to go back. I wanted to stay where I was. Loved, protected, surrounded
in perfect love and peace. I saw what would happen to my parents, my younger
brother, younger by a year than me, and my other family members. I don't
remember what I saw but I do know without a doubt that it was far from good...so
many people lost somehow, and hurt in some way. When Jesus was done showing me,
I remember turning frontwards again, He looked at me, bent His head a
little...like a parent does when sitting next to their kid talking about
something important, and said now you can choose what you want to do. You can go
back and go through all you've seen here, and if you go back you will have to go
through everything, or you can stay here. I remember looking down at my feet,
crossed at the ankles and swinging back and forth gently, about 6-10 inches from
the floor, my hands braced at my sides, head bent, and tears falling as I
struggled with the choice I had to make then. I kept screaming at myself I do
not want to go back, I don't why would I....and then the images of my family
came to me.....but I don't want to go back, I repeated to myself inwardly....and
as I did this a couple of times my tears kept running down my face. Then no
sooner had I started my struggle then I had my answer. I kept looking down, my
feet stopping, heart breaking to tiny bits as I spoke... I remember actually
speaking the words aloud, nodding my slumped head slowly, softly, not wanting
to, 'I'll go back'. I remember screaming at myself even as I said those words,
what?! No?! You can't do that to yourself! Why would you?!..No sooner had I
gotten my answer out and gotten the what and no out that Jesus said 'you made
the right choice'. I looked up feeling such a joyful feeling, though it makes
more sense to me to describe it as such a joyful sorrowness, with my heart still
breaking at what I was giving up and the bitterness, hate, hardships and pain I
would face.
I don't remember
much after that. I think I was comforted again briefly but was quickly sent back
to my body. It seemed once I'd made my choice it was urgent I go back. When I
did get back I simply recall waking up, as I described above.
I've never felt
again as I did while I was there, and I often find myself being homesick for a
place I can't remember fully and don't really know, as it were. I often have
d�j� vu and have had dreams come true. I also remember things before they
happen, done that to my mom a few times. After beginning to remember things, it
would come to me in bits and pieces over the years, my hate for God vanished,
replaced by the Love I had had for Him as a kid, but stronger. There have been a
lot of things I'd love to have changed in my life if I had only known what I
know now...but that's not how it works. We're supposed to go through life as
best as we know how, not looking over our shoulders to the past regretting
things, but looking towards the future, getting closer to God as we go.
In the bible Jesus
spoke of how great people are if they have faith and trust in Him rather than
actually seeing. I can say how true this is. It's easy for me, and others like
me, knowing what they've seen and experiencing things...for those who simply
have faith it isn't always as clear to them. I've heard people often wonder is
there really a God and say well science can explain everything out there. You
can go back to the tiniest cell/atom/whatever, but science can not say where
that came from. Seeing is powerful and I find myself always saying to them,
there is a God, I've seen Him and He knows what He's doing even if we don't what
we're doing.
At the time of your
experience was there an associated life-threatening event?
Yes I was going
through cancer treatment for a very rare cancer, at the time. But during my
experience it was not a factor. I was simply in my hospital room reading with a
lady while my mother talked to the doctors about my test results. I was not
hooked up to any machines, lines, no blood tests were being done, NOTHING at the
time that science loves to give discredit for.
Was the experience
difficult to express in words?
No
At what time during
the experience were you at your highest level of
consciousness and
alertness?
Normal consciousness and alertness just before being shown the
fountain
Please compare your
vision during the experience to your everyday vision that you had immediately
prior to the time of the experience.
I don't remember
if my other senses were stronger or not but I do remember everything being much
much brighter to me.
Please compare your
hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that you had immediately
prior to the time of the experience.
don't recall
Did you see or hear
any earthly events that were occurring during a time that your consciousness /
awareness was apart from your physical / earthly body?
Uncertain I was shown
what would happen in the future but as for what was going on where my body was
at the time, no I saw nothing like that. My full attention was where I was
outside of that room.
What emotions did you
feel during the experience?
happiness, peace, love,
comfort, sadness, loss, joy, a feeling of belonging there, that I was finally
home as if after a long hard trip/vacation....also torn between what I wanted
and what my family and others needed me to go back for.
Did you pass into or
through a tunnel?
Uncertain don't
know for sure how I got there....it seemed like I was just 'there'
Did you see an
unearthly light?
Yes everything was
lit up with brightness, nothing on earth can compare.
Did you seem to
encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an unidentifiable
voice?
I encountered a
definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin
see above in question 2 second last part. But yes...Jesus, he talked to me with
a voice as well as without.
Did you encounter or
become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings?
Uncertain I know I
saw humanlike people...were they alive before or angels. I don't know.
Did you become aware
of past events in your life during your experience?
No
Did you seem to enter
some other, unearthly world?
A clearly mystical or
unearthly realm
see question 2
....white brightness everywhere, clear water
Did time seem to speed
up or slow down?
Everything
seemed to be happening at once; or time stopped or lost all meaning
time stood still
Did you suddenly seem
to understand everything?
No
Did you reach a
boundary or limiting physical structure?
No
Did you come to a
border or point of no return?
I came to a
definite conscious decision to "return" to life
*************see
question 2****** I chose to come back. I could have stayed or go back...
I wanted to stay where
I was. Loved, protected, surrounded in perfect love and peace. I saw what would
happen to my parents, my younger brother, younger by a year than me, and my
other family members. I don't remember what I saw but I do know without a doubt
that it was far from good...so many people lost somehow, and hurt in some way.
When Jesus was done showing me, I remember turning frontwards again, He looked
at me, bent His head a little...like a parent does when sitting next to their
kid talking about something important, and said now you can choose what you want
to do. You can go back and go through all you've seen here, and if you go back
you will have to go through everything, or you can stay here. I remember looking
down at my feet, crossed at the ankles and swinging back and forth gently, about
6-10 inches from the floor, my hands braced at my sides, head bent, and tears
falling as I struggled with the choice I had to make then. I kept screaming at
myself I do not want to go back, I don't why would I....and then the images of
my family came to me.....but I don't want to go back, I repeated to myself
inwardly....and as I did this a couple of times my tears kept running down my
face. Then no sooner had I started my struggle then I had my answer. I kept
looking down, my feet stopping, heart breaking to tiny bits as I spoke... I
remember actually speaking the words aloud, nodding my slumped head slowly,
softly, not wanting to, 'I'll go back'. I remember screaming at myself even as I
said those words, what?! No?! You can't do that to yourself! Why would you?!..No
sooner had I gotten my answer out and gotten the what and no out that Jesus said
'you made the right choice'. I looked up feeling such a joyful feeling, though
it makes more sense to me to describe it as such a joyful sorrowness, with my
heart still breaking at what I was giving up and the bitterness, hate, hardships
and pain I would face. I don't remember much after that. I think I was
comforted again briefly but was quickly sent back to my body. It seemed once I'd
made my choice it was urgent I go back.
Did scenes from the
future come to you?
Scenes from my personal
future answered in question 2*****
I was told to look
into the fountain behind us, though again other people with similar stories,
i.e. Glen Tectford, claim it to be a book... not the book of life but another
that shows the things we will do in our lives and how things we do affect
others. So I looked down and was shown what my life was going to be like. I saw
everything, from where I was currently in my life to everything I was going to
go through. I was shown the people I'd help, even though I didn't know I was
helping them and even those that got help from me but didn't want it....they
just stumbled on their path walking with God because of meeting me.
Then I was shown
what my life would be like if I stayed where I was now in heaven. I saw the
difference and I knew as I watched the first part of facing the treatments I did
not want to go back. I wanted to stay where I was. Loved, protected, surrounded
in perfect love and peace. I saw what would happen to my parents, my younger
brother, younger by a year than me, and my other family members. I don't
remember what I saw but I do know without a doubt that it was far from good...so
many people lost somehow, and hurt in some way
Did you have a sense
of knowing special knowledge or purpose?
Yes besides the
following I've discovered I'm back to testify that there is a God, and to help
those find it within themselves to begin to look for their path to God. I saw
what would happen to my parents, my younger brother, younger by a year than me,
and my other family members. I don't remember what I saw but I do know without a
doubt that it was far from good...so many people lost somehow, and hurt in some
way. When Jesus was done showing me, I remember turning frontwards again, He
looked at me, bent His head a little...like a parent does when sitting next to
their kid talking about something important, and said now you can choose what
you want to do. You can go back and go through all you've seen here, and if you
go back you will have to go through everything, or you can stay here
I remember actually
speaking the words aloud, nodding my slumped head slowly, softly, not wanting
to, 'I'll go back'. I remember screaming at myself even as I said those words,
what?! No?! You can't do that to yourself! Why would you?!..No sooner had I
gotten my answer out and gotten the what and no out that Jesus said 'you made
the right choice'. I looked up feeling such a joyful feeling, though it makes
more sense to me to describe it as such a joyful sorrowness, with my heart still
breaking at what I was giving up and the bitterness, hate, hardships and pain I
would face.
Discuss any changes
that might have occurred in your life after your experience:
Large changes in my
life
I've never felt
again as I did while I was there, and I often find myself being homesick for a
place I can't remember fully and don't really know, as it were. I often have
d�j� vu and have had dreams come true. I also remember things before they
happen, done that to my mom a few times. After beginning to remember things, it
would come to me in bits and pieces over the years, my hate for God vanished,
replaced by the Love I had had for Him as a kid, but stronger. There have been a
lot of things I'd love to have changed in my life if I had only known what I
know now...but that's not how it works. We're supposed to go through life as
best as we know how, not looking over our shoulders to the past regretting
things, but looking towards the future, getting closer to God as we go.
In the bible Jesus
spoke of how great people are if they have faith and trust in Him rather than
actually seeing. I can say how true this is. It's easy for me, and others like
me, knowing what they've seen and experiencing things...for those who simply
have faith it isn't always as clear to them. I've heard people often wonder is
there really a God and say well science can explain everything out there. You
can go back to the tiniest cell/atom/whatever, but science can not say where
that came from. Seeing is powerful and I find myself always saying to them,
there is a God, I've seen Him and He knows what He's doing even if we don't what
we're doing.
Did you have any
changes in your values or beliefs after the experience that occurred as a result
of the experience?
No
Do you have any
psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your experience that you did
not have before the experience?
Yes d�j� vu at
times at times knowing when things will happen, knowing when something's
wrong/happened with someone
Have you ever shared
this experience with others?
Yes 25 years. They
were touched and slowly changed their lives, found peace
Did you have any
knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience?
No
What did you believe
about the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it
happened:
Experience was definitely not real I have to say not real because I didn't
remember until about 7 years later.
What do you believe
about the reality of your experience at the current time:
Experience was
definitely not real I have to say not real because I didn't remember until
about 7 years later.
Have your
relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience?
No
Have your religious
beliefs/spiritual practices changed specifically as a result of your experience?
No
At any time in your
life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the experience?
No
Did the questions
asked and information that you provided accurately and comprehensively describe
your experience?
Yes you asked in
question 2 all the details...the other questions my responses were the same as
question 2