Jonathan F's Experience
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Experience description:
Was 20
years old, mother was very ill, father busy seemingly doing nothing about it.
Got most of my solace and parenting from my grandparents during this time. Had
just lost a girl which I felt a very close connection to; we had been best
friends for the better part of three years and had just started to become
romantically involved. She became pregnant by her former long-time boyfriend and
felt she owed him the chance to be a father. So I let her go. Likewise I had
always felt very disconnected from the majority of people I had met. Often I
though this was my problem so tried to associate on their level but usually felt
more uncomfortable for having done so. On many subjects it always seemed like I
was an adult trying to explain quantum physics to a child, if this makes sense.
Nevertheless, I was despondent that no one could or would realize how deeply
affected I was at giving up this kindred soul. So I decided to join souls
I knew would understand me. I went up to the cliff overlooking large, deep lake,
and began drinking and thinking. Finally I decided to go ahead an take the
plunge, car and all, into the lake. Before I did I prayed, I said something
like, "God I would love to join you. At this time I give my will to you,
if it is your will to have me with you then so be it, if not please show me the
way." It seemed
almost at the end of these words I opened my eyes and was enveloped in the most
intense light I had ever known. I had the feeling that I was no longer where I
had been, I could see nothing but this light, I have no recollection of seeing
my body or anything else but this light. With the light though came a feeling of
love, peace and understanding I had never know at any other time in my short
life. I have no idea how long this lasted, if I remember right it was three or
four minutes real time, but it seemed to last for hours and hours. Nothing was
said to me I did not hear voices, nor did I see any beings, people or otherwise,
just the light and the overwhelming feeling of peace and love. When I
'came to' as it were I felt totally euphoric and to my utter amazement was
totally sober, there wasn't even the smell of beer on my breath; this and the
overwhelming urge I had had to drink over the past few years was gone. I felt
totally at peace and knew I had to start dealing with the issues that were so
close to my heart at the time. Yet in this feeling was an incredible sense of
loss and separation, like a profound homesickness; funnily enough a feeling I
had had many times during my life except that now I had a place to associate the
feeling with.
Many
people I have told, including my mother( who is a devout, almost fundamental in
her beliefs) attribute the entire thing to the beer. This often makes me sad,
akin to the adult trying to explain a difficult concept to an unreceptive
teenager. Yes that is the feeling I have had both before and after the
experience in talking with a lot of people. Like tying to talk to a teenager,
trying to give them insight from the point of view of experience and past
mistakes. Anyway
that is my story chalk it up to the beer if you want, but I know what came out
of the experience and despite the knowledge of where I am from and the sadness
and longing in not being there I would not change it for the world. Coming
out of the place I was left with the feeling of the loss of faith, I didn't need
it anymore and I knew, stronger than ever. Even when I was young, that I was
here to do something spectacular. Though I still don't know what that is, so I
try to live like everything I do will be spectacular to somebody.
I also
knew other things when I 'came to' but I have no idea how to put them into
words. I can tell when I meet someone, however, generally within a few minutes
talking how much they know and where they are on their journey, unfortunately
the majority of people I meet and have met I see as very immature, even though
most of them are religious/spiritual. Again I do not mean to sound demeaning in
any way. Funny though the few people I have met who could be considered equals
in this measure, we generally talk about everything but this subject. It is like
we know so why bother, let us learn about other aspects of who we are. Another
thing, that happened while I was typing below is a sense of De javu, but more
so. It is not the feeling that I have been there before, but more like either a
part of me is catching up to the now or visa versa. At that time though I know
that everything I have been dealing with at the time will be ok and will work
out somehow and I will come out ok. In my
daily life the only thing that has really changed is that I am patient now when
it comes to this world. I still don't know why I am here but I know what I am
here, so I go with it. In my
religious practice I do not go to church anymore, because it is uncomfortable,
physically, uncomfortable to be around people who are searching for knowledge
which I seem to know. I don't know how to explain it I do not feel uncomfortable
with the individuals, I guess the closest I can come to it is asking a college
graduate to repeat the 6th grade.
Career wise I have no idea, I thought about going into the ministry, but knew
from talking to other religious leaders that the church would not be happy with
what I had to say. Now I would love to do something where I can help people
along their paths, but I have a family to support, wife, kids, mom, dad. So I
guess I find something to do and continue with the other catch as catch can.
Any associated medications
or substances with the potential to affect the experience?
Yes, Lots of alcohol involved, had
been drinking for several hours.
Was the kind of experience
difficult to express in words?
Yes
Feeling of not being here,
while still being here. Also the residual joy and pain after the experience. I
still feel both when I think about the experience. The joy that was there and
the pain in not being there.
At the time of this
experience, was there an associated life threatening event?
Uncertain
Wanted to end this life not so
much to get away from pain here, but to join those who would understand me.
What was your level of
consciousness and alertness during the experience?
During the experience there was no
feeling of 'consciousness' just a feeling of being, pure and simple. I just was.
I know that sounds strange, but that was the feeling.
Was the
experience dream like in any way?
Yes and no. One second I was
'here; and the next second I was in this light. When I 'came to' there was no
dream like sensation, more like a memory of a vacation or something, that is the
best way I can describe it.
Did you experience a
separation of your consciousness from your body?
Uncertain
As stated I did not feel like I
was here, or there necessarily. I just was that is it. I just was.
What emotions did you feel
during the experience?
Love, joy, peace, belonging,
conetedness, understanding, being.
Did you hear any unusual
sounds or noises?
I heard everything and nothing all
at once.
LOCATION DESCRIPTION:
Did you recognize any familiar locations or any locations from familiar
religious teachings or encounter any locations inhabited by incredible or
amazing creatures?
Uncertain
I don't know if what I saw was
Heaven. I don't want to sound vain glorious or overblow the situation, but I
have always felt I was in the presence of God. I suppose much like what is
described by the angles as being in the presence of God. I have told this to
others and they have dismissed me out of hand, but that is what is was it was
like. Just being enveloped in everything all at once.
Did you see a light?
Yes
That is all I saw, and I
remember this vividly I could see light all around me, but I didn't have to turn
my head or look around I could see light from every corner, in front, above,
below, on all sides, behind me all at once. Also I could feel the light, not
like you would feel visible light with heat associated, but flowing through me,
around me, in me.
Did you meet or see any other
beings? No
Did you experiment while out
of the body or in another, altered state?
No
I was totally happy where I was
Did you observe or hear
anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be
verified later? No
Did you notice how your 5
senses were working, and if so, how were they different?
Yes
As I stated I just was, all my
senses were working as a single unit to focus on the light, and everything came
from this light. I could see, hear, smell, feel, and I suppose taste at this
time, but all at once, everything, I guess this is from just being. I just was!
Did you have any sense of
altered space or time?
Uncertain
As I stated I felt like I was
there for a long time, but only after I 'came to'. I suppose while I was 'there'
time lost all meaning to me then. Nothing but this light was important, but at
the same time I somehow knew I couldn't stay.
Did you have a sense of
knowing, special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?
Uncertain
People have always opened up to
me, even though they have just met me. It used to annoy me especially when I was
young, I just wanted to be a kid you know. People still do the same thing, but
not as often, it seems people come to me with more selective questions and
problems. I don't understand what exactly has changed?
Did you reach a boundary or
limiting physical structure?
No
Didn't travel anywhere, was
everywhere.
Did you become aware of future
events? No
Were you involved in or aware
of a decision regarding your return to the body?
Yes
As stated knew I couldn't stay
where I 'was' but was filled with a profound sense of sadness and loss at the
prospect of having to leave. Looking back much like leaving the home of a very
beloved relative not knowing how long it would be before you would get to
return, but this is a very simplistic explanation.
Did you have any psychic,
paranormal or other special gifts following the experience that you did not have
prior to the experience?
Uncertain
At times I can feel waves of
energy pass though me. Hard to explain certain places, people, and situations
cause this. Generally it is a benign feeling, sometimes this has emotional
connotations associated with these. Sometimes, especially when I am alone and
outside I feel as if there is a crowd around me.
Did you have any changes of
attitudes or beliefs following the experience?
Yes
Yes one didn't need faith in
God anymore, don't need to believe in what you know. Came to see that my path
was not 'the' path. Came to know that hell is not God turning his back on us but
us turning away from him. Realized what we as humans are doing here on earth,
and how we use what we learn, only began to confirm this later. Used to pray a
lot especially just after, came to realize that everything I do is prayer if I
do it with the love I felt in that time in mind. There are may other things I
knew when I came out of the light, but they are hard to convey into words.
How has the experience
affected your relationships? Daily life? Religious practices? Career
choices? Surprisingly
not long after this event I met the woman I would marry. I knew immediately that
I knew this woman. I could 'see' her soul if you will. She had had a very hard
life, but all I could see was the person she was to become. We were meant to be
together and wonder sometime if we are not twin flames, something I just
recently learned about. I love her and her three children very very much, but I
feel like I have known her for along time and will continue to know her forever.
Has
your life changed specifically as a result of your experience?
Uncertain
I am
not certain, I suppose so, because I know now that while everything here
matters, in the end nothing matters. This is a hard concept for me to explain.
Everything we do here and now is the most important thing you can ever do, but
on the whole it is all insignificant. Many people who believe the latter also
believe that nothing they do matters, but I know without a doubt that every
moment we are here in this place, every moment is our eternity and that
everything holds the utmost importance, but once we leave the here and now none
of what went on in our eternity really matters, even though it is still the most
important thing we can do. ???????
Have
you shared this experience with others?
Yes
Many,
especially family, have dismissed the whole experience as something to do with
the beer, or not as significant as I make it seem. This used to bother me in the
beginning, because I wanted to tell everybody, it was so incredible. Mostly it
was the most religious of the family that scoffed at me or downplayed it. Some
said it was God trying to tell me to get right and take Jesus Christ into my
life. Therefore I rarely discuss this with anyone unless I feel they are ready
and able to hear it.
What
emotions did you experience following your experience?
Great elation
and profound sadness. Elation in that the residual of the feelings have stayed
with me, sadness in so far as the feelings are on such a miniscule scale
comparatively.
What
was the best and worst part of your experience?
Just being, the
love the peace the wholeness, these were the best part of the experience. Loss
and sadness at being taken away from that, that was and is the worst part.
Is
there anything else you would like to add concerning the experience?
After
all this and some time for reflection, I have to come to realize that, right
now, I have a fear of dying, not death mind you, but dying. I am sure this will
change as I grow tried of this life, but right now I fear leaving this body,
even though I have seen what is out there. The reason I feel this is there are
things I will miss when I leave here, which I know won't matter, but know for me
here and now they do.
Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life,
medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?
No
Did
the questions asked and information you provided accurately and comprehensively
describe your experience?
Uncertain
I
suppose, as much as it could.