Jonathan D's Experience
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Experience description:
My regression into a
past life as a Native American
After
forty minutes of deep relaxation, the facilitator guides me to visualize a
large, beautiful corridor with doors on each side. He instructs me to
walk and describe what I see. I describe the walls to him, and then I tell him
that a door in particular draws my attention. It seems older, it stands out. The
following is the transcription of the session, which I then translated from
French to English:
I have an impression of very old wood. But I
feel I will go deeper if I concentrate on what the door makes me feel rather
than what I visualize. The door has a round top, and curiously the handle is on
the left side of the door, not on the right, as I would normally expect (there
are of course doors with a knob on either side, but in that moment it seemed to
me that doors normally have a knob on the right side.)
Can you describe the doorknob, what is it
made of?
It is made of gold, but it is not a round doorknob, it is like a handle, the
vertical bar is
twisted. It is covered with white
rust. My first impression was that it is made of ivory.
Concentrate your attention on this door for a
moment, and while you observe this door a part of you can feel, in the depths of
your being, that behind this door are the memories, emotions, intuitions, even
the images, of another incarnation. I will now count to three, and at the count
of three, this door will open and you will find yourself on the other side. You
will find yourself in the environment of
another time, another place where you have another body, and you will
know that it is you. You will be able to describe, spontaneously, what you
perceive and what emerges. At the count of one, now this door begins to slowly
open... two, you begin to perceive more and more what is on the other side of
this door... and three. The door opens completely, and you now find yourself on
the other side, in the environment of another time, another place. You have
another body. And spontaneously, would you say that you are inside or outside?
I�m outside.
Are you standing, sitting? Lying down?
I�m sitting.
Describe to me the environment where you are
sitting.
There is
sand, the first thing I saw is a man on a horse, but I don�t know if I�m making
this up (laugh).
So you saw a man on a horse, are you on a
horse yourself?
No I�m
sitting on a bench, it�s made of two logs. It seems to have been made in a rush,
the logs still have bark on them.
Are your feet naked or are they covered?
My impression is that they are naked... with
a kind of thin sandal under my feet.
And if you look at your legs are they naked
or covered?
They�re naked.
And if you look above your waist? Are you
wearing clothes, or not?
Hmm. It�s like thin leather, beige.
Do you have the impression that you are a man
or a woman?
I�m a man.
And what age would you say you are,
approximately?
Hmm... Probably in my thirties.
And is your hair long, short, mid-length?
I have slightly curled black hair that is
tied at the back of my head.
Do you hold something in your hands?
My wrists are tied [together] with twisted
cord.
Ok, are you held prisoner?
Yes... I�m Native American.
Do you have the impression that you are
situated in what today is Canada, or the United States?
United States.
More in the North? The South? West? East?
I�m more in the East... West of the Great
Lakes.
West of the Great Lakes, more or less in the
Midwest?
Yes.
And who has made you prisoner? Who has tied
you?
I think
it�s... I think the man on the horse is guarding me, but it�s not him who has
tied me. He�s not the authority that has tied me.
And what is happening inside you while you
are there, what do you experience internally?
Hmm... I have to center
myself (to perceive more clearly)� I have the impression that
their reason for tying me is futile. I was just living my normal life, doing my
thing, and they take me into their drama. I feel a disconnect, it�s as if they
involve me into their... as if they make me
play a role in their play, their issue, and I don�t really know what is
going on.
Are you alone, or are there other of your
comrades who have been made prisoner with you?
I�m
alone, but I�m not alone. On the bench with me there is a presence, older than
me. I don�t know if it�s my guide or...
So you feel that there is a presence with
you...
It�s my grandfather.
And do you perceive his presence, is he there
physically?
He is not there physically, but I have an
impression of his long grey hair.
And what happens next?
The man on the horse brings me, holding me by
the cord tied to my hands. He goes towards a village... I see the entrance which
is a fence made of big horizontal logs.
It�s a village of white people, or...?
No, it�s a village of Natives... Ahh...
So he brings you into that village...
Ahhh (sigh)... I�m starting to feel what is
going on... Hmm... Yes. There is a priest, a kind of missionary. Ah yes... and I
am... not a shaman but I have like�
...a gift, or...?
Not really... I have a wisdom or... a
symbolic way of expressing myself that connects with the souls of others. I
connect with the souls of my people... And I want to preserve the symbolic life
of the group, it�s a language by which we can understand each other... to talk
about [our] souls, about life. But that priest wants us to translate our
language... I don�t mean translate in the sense of in writing, but...
...to make it accessible for him?
No, no,
he wants us to speak by Christian symbols, [to use his images instead of ours]
and... I despise him...
You despise this priest...
But...
he�s empty! He doesn�t know what God is... (sigh) And I�m feeling that all this
strangely resonates with my own perception of religion [in my present life].
It�s as if your spirituality is...
Ah, I feel a defiance. I recognize it
in myself in this life too. I know that our truths are real, and invincible in
the face of his...
...to this priest�s truths?
...his empty stuff that we don�t
understand... but... it puts me in trouble, because this priest... wait, I will
try to concentrate on him to recognize him more.
Take a deep breath...
He wears small round glasses, with a round
hat. I wish I could connect with him... I
mean, not me right now [in this session], but [as] him (the Native man). I mean,
myself as that man. I so wish that he (the priest) could
understand... But he�s completely shut off.
Closed off to anything that is not his
doctrines, or...
It�s
like, he is even afraid of spirituality. He reports all truth back to what is
written in his Book... we don�t understand his Book, and when he tells us
about it, it�s... absurd. His God who is... crucified... It�s all nonsense...
(pause) the sunshine is beautiful.
Hmm. The sunshine is beautiful. And are there
many people around you?
Now I�m
standing in front of a rectangular log-wood edifice, I�m standing on the left-side
of the door [and the priest is standing a few feet away on the right-side of the
door]. The man on the horse has moved away, he�s just... guarding. He�s
in his own bubble. Inside, it�s a school. Now it�s not a class, but people are
gathered inside.
And who are the people who fill this room?
Hmm... (pause) there are
dignitaries... at the back there are members of my people, but at the front on
the right there are other priests, and on the front left there are... I
don�t know if they�re policemen but...
they�re like figures in a position of authority. But
they�re only passing through the region. These priests too. I think they�re a
delegation.
Have they come especially for you?
They�re not in the region for me. But they�re
sitting here for me. In fact, all these people are now gathered here because of
me.
And what happens next?
Hmm... Ahh... (sigh) I feel, first, if I step back from this scene, a
defiance. It�s part of my soul, it�s me. I feel entirely confident in
myself. I know that all this is rubbish. I know that the truths that I defend
and to which I devote myself are eternal. But... Ah
my God! Ah... (deep sigh). I understand too in this context, what I
feel... that when facing people who have never tasted this, I feel...
utterly defeated. Because my strength, my
invincible strength, lies above [and beyond] what these people can apprehend. So
on the level of this... trial, this kind of judgment scene, where they
want to... question me, all my resources are... useless. All the resources I
have
cultivated in my life and that make me a strong person
have no value whatsoever in this context...
Because they have no value in their eyes...
Yes, and because the language by
which I could express this power would only enter
their ear and come out the other. It can�t even be expressed in words. And
also... Ah...
Are you still in contact with the priest?
Mpff... (sob of anguish) now I�m in the
room... (deep sigh of frustration). They are going to banish me (sharp
resentment).
Of the village or...?
(sigh of anguish) They have no right! (with
indignation) (sob)
They want to banish you from the village?
Ahh... O my God... It�s strange because I
feel deep resonance with my present life.
We can come back to it later.
Yes, I won�t analyze it now but... Ahh...
So they want to banish you from the village
and...
Yes they want to bring me along with their
delegation. Ah Ahh... (sharp pain)
It�s heart-breaking?
They want to bring me to a grey place... a
city... a place... (cry) [where] I don�t know myself anymore.
You lose your bearings...
Ahh... (cry) all that gave me strength...
It�s not with me anymore... (sigh)
Nature? Animals?
[Especially] this inner life that I could share [with others], we understood
each other with our [symbolic] language. In fact in my present experience
(as this Native man) I don�t feel that we are in
nature [anymore], I feel that we live more in
a desert area, I think we had already been
moved here. Yes. We have been displaced here, we are not in nature
anymore and me, I�m trying to preserve what we had...
What remained, following the displacement...
now they remove you completely from that...
(cries of anguish)
Yes... It�s painful.
My
friends, my wife. And the people I brought happiness to. They�re not allowed to
be happy. They�re not allowed to
listen to me. They�re supposed to disconnect from their roots and accept
the authority of this priest. Respect him. In fact I think he...
...he wanted to eliminate the influence you
had?
Yes, that�s it. So long as I�m there, they
don�t listen to him. And he thinks that my people don�t listen [to him] because
of me, but my people don�t listen because his doctrines, his images, his
language, have no resonance... and... I remind them of the forest... (sob of
anguish)
It�s really an uprooting...
Yes, and me, I�m going to be doubly
uprooted... (cry) Ahh... Ahh! (anger) And in my life after that, people look at
me as if I�m worthless. I have no more value.
In that city, that grey place...
(cry) Ahh... and the way people looked at me
before, with sparks in their eyes...
Because they recognized your wisdom?
I made
their heart vibrate, I gave them hope that there is more [to life], that the
Great Spirit exists... In fact, I was
like an interface, because these people had been uprooted, and my role
was...
...to facilitate the transition?
Actually,
the transition itself is a tragedy, but my role was to keep their inner life
alive, so that they don�t fall into despair...
As if they indirectly used you to keep
cohesion in your people?
Well...
my grandfather, he (sigh of recognition) Ahh... It�s he who awakened me
when I was younger... he was full of
joy... and he�s still with me while I�m with these people (at the trial),
but he�s in spirit.
Is he called S. (my maternal grandfather in
this life) in your present life?
(giggle) Maybe...
I�ll now count to three, and at the count of
three you will be naturally transported to another important moment of that
life. One... two... and three. You are now transported to another significant
moment of that life as a Native. A moment that has had an influence on your
present life.
I�m sitting alone at a table, it looks like
an old kind of picnic table.
How old are you now, approximately?
Hmm... I�m not much older.
Do you feel it�s after this second uprooting?
Yes.
Ok. So you�re sitting alone at a table...
I�m in a house that has two windows (one in
front of me and another on my right). Hmm. I see light through the window in
front of me... and [in this moment] I have just remembered that my grandfather
is with me...
And how does it make you feel inside, to
remember that he is with you?
Through
the reflection of sunlight, I remember... I remember the eternal Light. (sob)
Ahh...
And this house in which you find yourself, is
this the house where you live, or is it another place?
It�s a house that I rent.
Ok, and do you live alone or do other people
live with you?
I live alone. (sigh)
So you�ve felt the presence of your
grandfather in this ray of light.
It�s not
that he is [in the] ray of light, but his presence has reconnected me [to my
soul] through the... [ray of
light]. Ahh...
And what
is your state of mind at this moment when you are sitting at this table in this
house? How do you feel?
It helps
me understand that... (sigh) that the Light is still invincible even if I can�t
protect it in my people�s consciousness. It helps (wavering voice)... it helps
me detach myself from the frustration and the sadness of not being there
for my people (sob). Because... I have
resources to protect myself from despair, but them... (deep sadness).
The sadness is still present...
Well, at the moment I�m in, I feel liberated
from that.
It gives you a perspective...
Sitting
at the corner of my table I just realized that... Ahh... the smallness of this
world, and that even if [my people]
forget, it�s not forever. And even if they fall into despair, it�s not...
...it�s not eternal, not permanent...
...and I can detach myself from that
responsibility.
It helps you not to be completely absorbed,
submerged by that...
...and...
it�s especially... the frustration towards these people [who banished me]. I
also brought this ability to detach myself into this life [as a Native,
from previous lives]. Ahh... (deep sigh).
...[your frustration] about their lack of
understanding...
...well,
about their insipid way of life. Oh my God, they live only in surfaces! Only
money and what they can acquire and take away. Ahh... I see this Light [now,
through the reflection that shines through my window].
It makes you feel better...?
Yes... Ahh... (sigh)
It appeases, attenuates the sadness...?
Yes, it�s
a ray of sunlight that reflects on something [metallic] by the window [in front
of me], and it�s as if I enter into
that ray of light. It�s my grandfather who... at this moment I�m not
conscious that my grandfather is [helping me do] this. Now [as I revisit
this life] I can see him, and I know it�s him
who has inspired me to delve into that ray of light.
At this moment you didn�t perceive his
presence? Ok...
No, but
now I can feel him. I mean, I could feel [a spiritual presence] then, but I
didn�t know [at that moment] that it was him.
A little like when you felt him on the bench
in the first scene?
When I was [sitting] on the bench he was with
me but I didn�t feel his presence with me. Actually, I could feel the �quality�
of his presence, but not that it was him. Not that he was just there [beside
me].
Yes... I understand.
Ahh... (deep sigh)
I will now count to three, and at the count
of three you will be transported to another
important moment of that life. One... take a deep breath, two... and three. And
you are naturally transported to another important moment that has had an
important influence on your present life.
Hmm... there is a lot of dust, sand, there
are many horses around. I�m with other Natives. There is a cylindrical
construction, we are all standing around this...
...and what is happening?
Hmm... I don�t know...
Are you... what sensations do you experience?
As you are all gathered in the center is there a feeling of well-being, of
danger, of fear?
Of danger. I am 45 years old.
You�re 45 years old, ok...
It�s been a while since the time of the last
scene.
And where is this feeling of danger coming
from?
I don�t know... there is a lot of agitation
around, many horses. They are white people [around]... (long pause) I don�t know
what we�re doing here.
Ok, can you can you describe the place where
you are, is it a village, or a Native village?
No, it�s further away from dwellings.
Are you in the country, or...
It�s like a large cylinder, made with
vertical logs of wood.
Is it a kind of reservoir?
No, not a reservoir. It�s like a place where
we can be the center of attention. On top of the cylinder there is a kind of
small protruding roof, like... to cover us if it�s raining. Ah yes... There are
different kinds of people [standing around the construction], there are black
people too. Hmm...
And what are you doing, do you have the
impression that you are working, or...?
No, we
are standing with our back again the large cylinder. I think... I think we are
to be sold.
Are you with other Natives, members of your
people?
Nobody that I know.
And you see black people with you?
They�re
more on the other side of the cylinder. On my side we are Natives. They�re in
[bad shape]... the man beside me (on my left) is a drunkard. Almost no teeth
left. He doesn�t seem well.
And what happens next?
A man comes on his horse and pulls me. He
brings me away.
Do you feel you have been bought?
Yes... I�ve been bought by a fat man... No. I
mean, the man who sold me is a bit fat.
And what about the man who bought you, what
do you feel about his vibrations, his energy?
Hmm.
(intrigued) It�s funny, I feel like... my first impression was that of a woman
who looked at me, and she really saw me. I saw a spark in her
eyes... the man who bought me, [her husband,] is a decent man. I think they need
a domestic. And they have felt my quality [as a person. She saw me and told her husband to take me. I
saw him walk up to the big man on the left and make the transaction. She
wears a long dark dress and her husband is
wearing a red tweed suit. He is elegant].
So they bring you along with them.
I�m sitting at the back of a carriage. (The
couple is sitting in the front).
A carriage drawn by a horse? (I remember two
horses).
Yes. I�m sitting at the back. They are
distant. My wrists are still tied, by precaution. But I don�t feel at all like I
felt when my hands were tied [in the first scene].
Like the time when they uprooted you?
In fact, now I feel liberated. It�s
interesting, in that incarnation I tend to think symbolically, well... to think
through symbolic resonance. And I�m reflecting on the fact that the cord that
tied my wrists before my banishment were the opposite of my ties now, because
now I feel I�m being freed from the city.
And they bring you to the country?
Yes... Yes. They have heard good things about
me. I�m an honest person.
And what happens next?
Hmm... (laugh) I�m not too sure... Ahh...
(laugh) That woman, I feel love for her. I�m in love with her, but I hide it.
You feel attracted to her?
No, it�s not a sexual attraction... But I
feel... love for her.
In your heart.
Actually, it�s her. In that life, it�s her.
Like earlier, you felt that she recognized
you, that she saw you.
It�s her that I love. Ahh... (deep sigh)
She recognizes your light, the true being
that you are.
(sigh) Yes. Hmm...
Yes. It touches you, to be recognizes by
her...
Yes...
But I�m not supposed to love her. (sigh) Hmm... I must have discipline. Because
I have regard and respect for the man too. He is a good person.
So you are comfortable with this man and this
woman, compared to what you have known previously?
Ah... (moved) It makes me so proud to
take care of what is theirs. I take care mostly of the exterior [of their
domain]. Horses, and bringing wood, and... It�s large, and it�s a remote house.
Are there other animals than horses?
Yes, there are chicken... no pigs.
Is it a kind of farm?
No, it�s not really like that, it�s more like
a small domain, semi-autonomous. There are two female domestics who work inside.
One is black, and the other is mulatto. She must have been born of black and
white parents.
And they are younger than you?
Yes. (In their teens)
And what kind of rapport do you have with
them? How do you get along with these two women, these two domestics?
They�re still young, hmm... I think
they�re... not really scared, but naturally prudent [around me]. There is a rule
that we should keep our distances. Because exterior and interior tasks are
separate.
And your rapport with the owners are always
good?
Hmm... [I remember] the woman, one night
she�s drunk, she�s angry. She throws her wine
glass to the floor. (It left a vivid mark in my memory, the shattering of the
glass, the spilled red wine.)
Is she angry with her husband?
No, with me.
And what is the cause? What makes her angry?
I trouble her relationship with her
husband... because... I�m disciplined, but... her husband can sense the
affection I have for her. And she would want me to stay, she has affection for
me too. She also keeps her distances...
Her husband is jealous of your affectionate
rapport, even though nothing is going on between you?
Hmm... it�s not... he�s not a jealous man.
These two persons are evolved souls. He�s not (really) jealous but it makes him
uncomfortable. She�s angry because she has to send me away and she doesn�t want
to.
And what happens next?
I go to
take a walk, it�s night. I walk out of the house... I go to take a walk in the
forest. I�m under the stars. (long pause) Hmm...
And what happens next?
Hmm... I
put the affection I have for her in a star (giggle). [Now] I couldn�t tell which
one [it was] (laugh).
So you project all your affection for her
into that star?
It�s hmm� another [spiritual] guide who has
suggested this to me. I�m not aware of the suggestion at that moment but... I
had an intuition. Then I sit on a [large] rock, and I contemplate that star.
Ahh... I�m trying to see in that star the spark that I saw in her eyes the first
time she saw me.
The spark in her eye. And how do you feel, as
you send you love for that woman into that star?
I feel serene. Because... I can also feel
this in [my present] life, that I have cultivated a lot of detachment [in my
past lives]. I have had to... through my experiences of detachment in this life
[as a Native] and I think in previous lives as well. I�ve developed a lot of
detachment from earthly things. And actually, over the time that I�ve been their
servant I have gradually begun to realize that [my love for that woman] is a
projection [of something greater than her, that she is only human]. She is an
admirable woman, and it gave meaning to my life to devote myself to her, like
a Queen. But for her husband it�s too strong an affection. He would want
a servant who is more detached.
It destabilizes him?
Yes, and it�s also that he feels it divides
his wife�s heart. Because she is not indifferent to my affection. He�s a good
husband, he�s devoted and kind to her, but he�s more preoccupied by his
business, his commerce.
His material success... animals?
It�s not commerce... he has accounts. No, not
animals. He has possessions abroad. He has... it�s like... I don�t know. I don�t
think I knew very much [about it], but I know that what preoccupies him is in
another country, maybe Europe, I�m not sure.
He�s very preoccupied by that aspect...
He�s not very preoccupied, but it
makes his preoccupation less...
...less interior?
Hmm...
no. It�s... she like to be treated like a Queen, and he doesn�t really treat her
like that. Well... he treats her with respect, but...
...it�s as if his devotion is not...
...it does not have this �mystical�
quality...
...I understand...
...a devotion that is larger than life.
And you were saying also moments ago that you felt this
devotion for her was directed
towards her but that it was something much greater that you touched through this
[experience]?
The love
that I have for her is the love I have for that star... well... my love for that
star is still a projection but... that [spiritual] being is [the
real object of my love]...
Ok. I
will now count to three, and at the count of three you will find yourself on the
very last day of that incarnation, where you are a Native, around the
Midwest in the United States, in an earlier time. One... two... and three. And
you are now transported to the very last day of your incarnation.
(coughs repeatedly) (laugh) I smoke too much.
You smoke too much?
In that life.
In this life too?
In this life not too much, but... I�m in my
bed, I�m alone and... my lungs hurt. I cough too much. Because of the big rolled
cigarettes that I smoke, with no filter.
How old are you, approximately?
I�m 68 years old. (It strikes me how clearly
this number appeared in my mind)
And you
are alone in your bed. And what makes you think it�s the last day of your life?
Do you feel it inside you?
I don�t know... I just went where you told me
to go (laugh)... (cough) Yes, it�s been weeks
that I have trouble getting up because I�m hurting all over my body. My body is
aching. Too much tobacco. My lungs burn, it sears my lungs when I breathe.
I will now count to three, and at the count
of three you will find yourself at the moment of your very last breath, at your
very last heartbeat in this life. One... two... and three. You are now
transported to the very last breath, at the very last heartbeat, and you now
leave this body as you have done many, many times before. You leave this body.
My hair are long and grey, like my
grandfather�s.
Do you feel you are inside your body, or have
you left it?
No, I�m above my body. Ahh... I wish to turn
around, ah! (sigh) I turn around there a Light behind me. Ahhh... I (sigh...
cry... breath-taken with wonder) It�s my Princess...
She�s standing on the right side [of the
Light], she�s all dressed in white... It�s her that I love. She has flowers in
her hair. She signals me to proceed towards the Light. (giggle) Ahhh...
Elevate yourself softly, and let yourself be
drawn towards the Light.
Ahhh...
it�s white, it�s luminous. Ahhhhh... Woahh it is huge! It�s... it�s as if the
whiteness in around me is like a mist, and the more I look [and as my vision
pierces through the mist], the more... Whhooaaa. The more I see how vast
it is. As if the mist allows me to adapt to the grandeur.
To the grandeur... and do you feel that you
are moving or are you stationary?
I�m
moving forward slowly. (pause) Hmm... The white woman is slightly behind me,
on my right side.
The one you called your Princess?
Ahhh... (Yes)
Do you feel that she is guiding you?
Yes... she has put her hand behind my higher
back [below my neck]. In front of me there
are other beings... [It seems there are three on the left side and two on the
right, placed in a semi arc].
Are they beings you feel you know... deeply?
I�m not yet connected with them... (laugh) I
need to concentrate more on the Light right now, because if I turn to these
beings my energy is lowering. (I wasn�t feeling it was the right moment for me,
in this session, to experience meeting with them).
Continue letting yourself be drawn to the
Light.
Ahh... (long pause) I feel I need to descend
to a deeper state.
To descend to a lower level?
No, I mean to go higher (i.e. deeper).
I need to calibrate myself. Because I�m feeling myself (in the session) coming
back here.
Take a deep breath, and I will count to
three, and at the count of three you will be transported to an energetic place
where you need to go, a place where you are awaited. One... you are guided,
drawn to that energetic place, more and more. Two... more and more deeply. More
and more deeply. And three. And you arrive in this energetic place where you are
awaited.
I am inside a black sphere. It�s... here that
I come to contemplate my life. It�s black, like I�m enveloped [within blankets].
Are you alone in this black sphere? Do you
feel there are other presences near you?
Hmm... my Angel, the white woman, she is
outside the black sphere and it�s as if she is holding the black sphere [in
front of her, near her heart]. I am much smaller than her now. Well... not too
much smaller, but I�d say my height is like the height of her head� But it�s not
really important.
Ok. So
you come here to contemplate the life that you have just left, in that black
sphere? Let the sensations, impression, images, come by themselves.
Hmm...
when I was in the city, not really a [big] city, but a kind of urban center
where there is more activity, I had a (female) companion, she was a
bit... not choleric, but...
Short-tempered?
She gives me the same impression as a
girlfriend I lived with a few years ago.
Ok... and what did it make you feel, this
relationship with this short-tempered woman, in that life?
She projected her negativity in her
environment, what is around her. [She had no
patience for] untidiness in the home. And. I didn�t connect with her emotions.
For me, what she felt was futile, and so I was not sensitive with her.
And you sense there was a certain futility to
that relationship?
No it�s not what I meant to say, what I mean
is more that [this situation is] something that I have had to deal with [again
in my present] life. It�s not yet top notch, but I have learned to be more
sensitive to someone else�s emotions that I do not understand. I can be
empathetic, it�s not really a problem, but I have difficulty taking seriously
someone�s feelings when their feelings don�t seem �valid� in my view. This is a
learning that has returned to me in many relationships [in this life].
And would you say that in that life of a
Native, that this relationship was there for you to develop empathy, or
understand how...
...I didn�t really learn it [in that
life]... it�s a
learning that I brought with me [to work on it] again in this life. Often she
was sad [and upset] but I didn�t take
her [feelings] seriously.
And you are still in that black sphere?
I had entered again into the life... I [will now] return into
the sphere. (pause) Hmm...
And what do you perceive now?
Hmm... In my life in the city, there are many
people who have perceived my... the spark in
my eyes, and they would have wanted to drink from what I could have given
them, but I have always closed myself off.
Not always, but I�ve only revealed myself to
a very restricted group of people. And I
didn�t look people into the eyes, I didn�t try to
connect, so there have been many people who
desired to talk with me but whose need I didn�t recognize, because I
didn�t look at them. They could have benefited from me.
So you understand this aspect, the closing
off that you experience during your life in the city?
Yes,
because during my first three years in the city I was very gloomy, because I
hadn�t yet detached myself from my people and I worried about them. So in
the beginning I was really, really closed off. Later I opened up a little, but I
was always very, very solitary. And that is why I was comfortable working by
myself, as I did on the house of the couple. I was working [mostly] alone, but
there was another man, a little fat, with a short beard, who liked to chew
grass. He was funny, but I couldn�t really talk with him. I just had
[work-related] interactions with him. There were other young men hired for
various jobs...
...with whom you could connect, or...?
...no, no, not really...
...ok, not really.
In fact, it�s in solitude and in my devotion
to her that I kept...
...the flame...
...yes... other than that, I kept my flame...
I did not shine my flame on other people...
Yes I understand...
Because... well... I closed off, after
experiencing being uprooted, twice over. And... I
did not root myself again in that life.
Hmm... in that house [of the couple], and in the nature around it I
connected in some way, but I didn�t really root myself again.
So, now return to the black sphere if you
have left it, and take a deep breath... And let other memories or scenes from
that life that have been important learnings for you in that life.
Hmm... I
learned... maybe it�s something I had previously acquired, in lives before that
life, but I have learned to work hard while
finding deep meaning to what I do, even if it�s something concrete, like
chopping wood, to...
...to do it with your heart...
...yes
and if I chop wood, to think of those it would warm... Ahh� that made me happy.
To devote myself... my devotion, it�s as if
my devotion became disconnected from the collectivity, because of my
experience of being...
...banished, uprooted...
...[yes,] and after that I didn�t reopen
myself to live my devotion other than towards one person, or within a one on one
relationship.
Are you still in the black sphere?
I�m in the life, it�s as if each time I start
thinking of an event I go back into that life.
If it�s
appropriate, return to the black sphere, and take a deep breath. And you are
back in the black sphere. Let another moment, another learning in that
life present itself to you.
Children. They helped me find my joy again.
Children at what period of your life?
[Three years] after I came to the city. A
little girl [around age 7] asked me, �Why do you always seem so sad?�
Hmm...
And it
made me laugh (laugh). She had her little brother beside her, he was just
looking, but without understanding what was going on. He was cute. But
this little girl, she helped me reconnect...
...she helped you reconnect, find joy again
inside you?
It gave me a reflection, she allowed me to
see it from the outside, because I didn�t see that I was sad. Well... I was
in sadness, but she allowed me to see it, to become conscious of it
[from the outside].
Yes, she acted like a mirror...
(sigh) I want to thank her.
Ok, [take the time to] thank her. Can you see
her, that little girl, can you bring her back to your attention?
Yes, I sat her on my knees and I gave her a
warm hug.
Do you feel she is still in your presence?
Yes.
I will ask you to simply look into her eyes,
look into her eyes with love, and at the same time, ask yourself, is there
someone in your present life who is incarnated or who has been in the past and
who would be this soul? or not?
Hmm...
Simply look into her eyes and let it come, if
someone [comes to your mind].
I don�t
know... It came to me spontaneously that it�s N., but I�m not sure. I don�t know
if I�m mapping this over [what I am experiencing]. I want to concentrate
more being with her. (long pause) Hmm...
she�s familiar, but I don�t recognize her [in this life].
So, it may return to you in the next days or
weeks, spontaneously. I will now count to three, and at the count of three you
will leave this sphere and you will be transported to another energetic place
that you need to visit, an energetic place where perhaps guides are waiting for
you, or beings of light are awaiting you, if it is appropriate. One... take a
deep breath, two... and three. And you let yourself be transported to an
energetic place...
...I�m sitting in the center of a circle of
beings who are sending me energy.
Are there many of them, these beings?
They are forming a kind of teepee, or cone
around me. They are disposed like this (I form a cone with my hands). What did
you ask me?
What do you feel coming from these beings? Do
you feel that these beings are people from your soul family, or beings who guide
you in your different incarnations?
Hmm... I feel they are all close to me in
soul, but in my present state (in the session, there seemed to be an emotional
veil preventing me from recognizing them. As if I was not ready to open up to
the intensity of the experience of recognition).
Stay in their presence.
It�s as if the place I�m in right now is to
receive their healing, not to try to interact with them.
It�s perfect. Just let yourself receive their
vibration, their energy.
(deep sigh)
And how would you describe what you receive
from them?
Hmm... it�s positive energy... joy...
peace... to regenerate me.
Let
yourself be re-energized, let yourself bathe in this energy. Take a deep breath,
and breathe in this energy, in the depth of yourself, and let this energy
regenerate every molecule of your body and of your subtle bodies. (long pause) I
will now count to three, and at the count of
three, we will be at the moment when this regeneration will be completed, at
every level of your being. One... and two... and three. The regeneration is
total, in every level of your being, physically and energetically.
Ahh... (sigh) Now that I�m free I just wish
to fly... super fast... to shoot [into the sky].
So now, you fly away, and you ascend, higher
and higher, faster and faster. And you fly, and
ascend more and more. You fly to another energetic place that you need to
visit, that would be appropriate for you to visit. Let yourself be drawn,
fly towards that place.
Ahh... (sigh of liberation)
You are totally free. There is no limit
anymore. You are totally free.
(deep sigh) I�m lying down in the grass.
You�re lying down in the grass, yes?
(deep sigh) Everything is perfect. I
feel good alone. It has always felt good to be alone.
And do you feel it is more of an energetic
place, or more of a physical place?
It�s physical. It�s like the Earth, but it�s
even better.
It�s more beautiful than the Earth? Hmm...
(sigh) Ahh... I feel so much lighter. Ahh!
(recognition) Further away there is a small pond, and my Angel is sitting on a
large rock [by the water] (sigh).
An angel is waiting for you?
It�s
her, my Angel... (sigh) she is the same that I loved in that woman, and in
that star. She signals me to come to her.
Then go to her.
(smiling)
(sigh) She�s very playful. Very nimble in her [demeanor]... she is very wise,
she doesn�t take herself seriously at
all. She�s very impish (Fr: coquine) (giggle). I will sit in front of
this pond. It�s a passage to descend... it�s the passage to my next life.
Are you beside, or in front of that Angel?
She�s
sitting on the other rock across from me, beside the pond [we are sitting on two
large rocks on each side of the path that leads into the water].
Do you
feel that she is a soul-mate, a soul that you incarnate often with, or is it
more that she plays the role of guide for you?
Hmm... I
don�t know, I think that in my recent lives she stays on the other side... [I
feel that she has come to Earth with me, many lives ago]. She
will make me look into the water now. I can
see in the water images and reflections... it�s as if this mass of water
is a passage, and I can see images reflected in the water.
And you said that it�s a passage to a next
incarnation?
Yes.
And can you see images of this next
incarnation?
Yes, a little bit. (long pause)
Keep your attention to this water, this
lake...
...my
impression right now is that this is what is happening [in the afterlife], but
that here and now [in this session] it
is not the right time... it�s not the [right] moment for me to focus on
that. I don�t know...
Can you reformulate what you just told me?
That
before concentrating on what I could see in this lake, I need to be more in
communion with her. We�re sitting on each side of the pond, on large rocks, and
there is a path of sand leading into the water.
Perfect... (long pause) connect your energies
together�
(sigh)
Do you feel that she is a very evolved and
experienced soul?
Hmm... yes... well, from what I can see I am
aware that she is more evolved than me. She has resolved more energy
[dynamics]...
And do you have the sensation that if we ask
questions to her that she would answer, or not?
Hmm... I�ll walk with her. We will walk side
by side... yes.
Yes she would answer questions or...?
I think so, yes. Not in words, but in
impressions.
How do you perceive her energy?
(sigh) Very nimble. With much lightness of
joy and freedom. She is not worried by things. She is very confident, trustful.
Very fluid.
Is there a sound that comes to you
spontaneously that would correspond to her energy, of this Angel?
I don�t know...
It�s ok, it could come later... So, I will
ask her a question, and...
...there came to me the name �Solen�...
...Solen, ok. So I will ask a question to
Solen. (pause) Jonathan would like to learn about his life purpose, how he could
manifest in his life what he feels inside him, what he discovers,
how he could benefit others. Could you,
Solen, shed some light [on this], to help Jonathan on this matter. And
you (Jonathan) can either let her speak through you, or report to me what she
tells you.
(pause) I still have an energetic weight to
release, around my solar plexus, to feel less nervous, more protected or less
naked...
...helpless?...
...yes, helpless. There may be a connection
with... But I�ll make connections later...
And I saw you brought your hand to your solar
plexus...
...yes, it�s all my anxiety that makes me
bite my nails.
Yes. Hmm... and does Solen have something, a
way of being to suggest, so as to resolve this energetic [tension]?
Hmm... Through other Santo Daime works and
regressions, to examine this tension.
Perfect...
In this
experience during my previous life, of successive uprootings, I felt that I
could only have an interior garden, but not let its fruits be seen on the
outside.
As if you hold back, you close yourself off,
because of that uprooting?
Actually, I feel that it�s as if... this
world gave me the impression that it is not worthy of what I have to contribute.
Souls yes, but not... it�s as if... this is also what caused
me to... when I was in the city, in that life, I closed myself off,
because it seemed to me that people
who are preoccupied with this world do not deserve that I open up to them. And
others who would be more special and open, to those I would open up, but only
in very private contexts...
...not
letting the influence or echoes of the banishment in that life prevent you in
this life from opening up...
Yes... I
feel resentment towards those who do not understand me, who disrupt my life, who
disconnect me or prevent me from living the normal course of my existence.
And I have associated people who are not awake to those who have wronged me [by
banishing me]. Hmm... when we express
ourselves on a larger scale, we will be heard by people who will not be
open and who will not understand, and who will brush it off. And it�s as if my
resentment causes me to deny them even hearing [what I have to
contribute]. So this also prevents other
people, who would be open, to benefit from what I could share with them. Because
one of the strength I have in me is [the ability] to reconcile opposites, to
unify a perception in order to align an experience towards the truth.
It�s as if I take the different ingredients, and
they are then formed in my perception. This
allows me to transmit knowledge in a nourishing way.
Are you still in the presence of Solen?
Yes.
Stay in
the presence of Solen, and reconnect yourself to her energy, what she transmits
to you. (pause) Are you still sitting by that lake?
No, we are walking.
And describe to me the place where you walk,
what you perceive.
It�s a white path. We�re surrounded by a
white mist, and under our feet is [very fine] white sand. It�s just a place
where we walk (My impression is that our surroundings are simply an imaginal
place where we walk. The surroundings don�t matter).
I will now ask another question to Solen, and
just let the information, let her answer come, simply. I will ask her to shed
some light on your grandfather [in your present life], whose
name is S. P., and who is present in your
vibration. What information does Solen want to give you, regarding his
energy, with respect to you?
It�s not the same essence as my grandfather
in the life as a Native. I made a bridge earlier because he�s my grandfather and
he�s my grandfather, but...
...it�s not the same essence?
At this moment she doesn�t give me the
impression that they�re the same essence. I don�t think I have... She makes me
see... I don�t have a particular connection... from
what I can see at this moment, he (S.) sends
good energies to me, but we are not very close. This is the impression
that comes to me now.
I will ask another question to Solen now.
Solen, H., who is Jonathan�s older sister, can you give us information, or shed
light on the karmic links that connect H. and Jonathan?
Hmm...
she (Solen) makes me see that she (H.) has been my younger sister in another
life. We have a connection... she needs me in
this life, because she lives a life of work, children, routine, always
running, and there is not much love around her. Always expectations. And me I
love her without expectations... and it does her good.
Are you still in the presence of Solen?
Yes.
I will ask Solen now to give us information
concerning M. T., Jonathan�s ex-fianc�e, what are the karmic links between M.
and Jonathan?
(sigh) All her family, they are all linked together to live hmm... they threw
themselves into very difficult experiences in this life, and... the
impression that comes to me is that I had made a deal with them to come into
their life partially, to create situations
[they need to face]. M. still
has a lot to learn, to find her strength inside herself, and I...
...and you had a role to make her family
evolve, to help them move [forward]...
Yes and... hmm... with M. I [came into her
life] to bring her to experience deep love,
and identify me as her object of love, like the bud of a love that she will come
to experience more fully in future lives...
...as if she�s not ready now to go further...
There is
too much negativity around her in her family, it is not the right condition
for her to evolve in.
Yes... I
understand. Ok. I will now count to three, and at the count of three, you will
now visit an energetic place that you need to visit. Either the same as
earlier, or another. One... two... three. Let
yourself be transported to another energetic place, deeper and deeper. (long
pause) Where are you now?
I�m in the sand, in the desert.
Are you alone, or in someone else�s presence?
There is an African aboriginal, standing on a
dune above me, he holds a long spear. [He has red feathers on his head, chest
and spear]. He is pointing his spear towards something...
He points to something?
In the sky.
And are you close to him or far?
Close... I have to walk in the desert toward
that star.
Toward the star he is pointing to?
Yes.
Ok. Perfect.
I feel like it�s symbolism now. I�m starting
to feel a little out of it.
Ok... we will now gradually prepare to
return. I will now count to five, and at the
count of five, you will simply let yourself drift into a white space, a
luminous, timeless space. Let yourself drift into a white, luminous
[space], a space where you will integrate and
incorporate all that has happened during the session today, and that will also
allow you to fully regenerate your energy.
I now address myself to your higher
consciousness, and I ask your higher consciousness to help you, in the coming
days, weeks and months, to help you make connections between the memories that
you have visited, in this past life in which you were a Native, and to integrate
also the information you have received in the interlife, in the different stages
and places of the interlife. And in this past life, you have understood that you
were like a beacon, a luminous resource for your people, your tribe, and that
the uprootings that you have endured have caused you to shut the door. You have
been somehow forced not to radiate what you carry inside you, and as a result
you have closed the door, while keeping the flame lit inside you, but its
transmission was not the same after that.
So, you have understood that this life, these
experiences, belong to a past life. And that now, in this life, the life in
which I know you by the name of Jonathan, the echoes and hurts of that past life
do not belong to this life, but to the past. And now
there is no more risk, no more danger to open
yourself to others, and to communicate what you feel and carry inside
you. The danger is not present in this life anymore.
So in the days and weeks to come, you will be
able to feel, more and more, inside you,
that the influences of that life will
dissipate, and the feelings of anxiety that you feel also physically, around
your solar plexus, that they will dissipate, as you allow yourself to
open up to others, and feel that there are people in your life that can be
touched by you, and that can benefit from what you are able to transmit, and
give them.
And in the coming night, and the nights that
follow, I ask your higher consciousness and
your soul to bring you dreams that will help you make connections between this
past life and your current life, connections that will help you in
your present life to integrate abilities that
you had, and that you can re-access, because they are within you. And
also dreams that will help you free yourself from influences that are no longer
useful to you, in your current life. And I also ask your soul to make it so that
all you have learned that is important to you today, be integrated in your
thoughts, your words, and actions. And I ask that gradually you acquire a
clearer understanding of who you are, and the way in which you can emanate in
this life the person that you are.
In a moment, I will count to ten. And at the
count of ten you will completely emerge from the state you are in, you will feel
well, regenerated, ready to go on with your
day. And you will remember everything that has occurred today. And in the
days and weeks to come, you will continue to
make connections between your past life and your current life. One...
begin to come back, slowly. Feel the normal energy
reintegrate your body, a bit like a hand that
enters a glove... two... take a deep breath now... three... four...
five... all the functions of your body come
back to normal now... six... seven... eight... nine... you can move your wrists,
your legs... and ten.