Attila P's Experience
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Experience description:
I was four years
old. A short time before this experience I�d had a very traumatizing scenario
with my father. (He had come up with this idea that I should be punished by
taking me to a field near our town and leaving me there.) I was totally
vulnerable and unsettled. I didn�t want to live anymore. N.B.: I used to sleep
with my brother. We shared a bedroom. I went to sleep that night with my face
towards the wall and I felt desperately sad. I decided to die. My breathing
became lighter and lighter until I let it stop. I stayed not breathing for a
short time and then my spirit left my body. I was sure that I had fallen asleep.
But I could see below me which didn�t make sense. I saw myself lying peacefully
in bed. In addition I saw my brother sleeping on his side, on his bed which was
next to my bed on the right. I found it very amusing because I�d never had as
interesting a dream as this one! But something didn�t seem right with my
movement. It went too fast. I knew that willing something meant moving towards
it. There was no delay. I felt free and oddly clean. I suddenly began to slowly
climb towards the ceiling. I thought it was weird that I would then probably
pass through to the attic. (I was only four years old.) But when I reached
the ceiling I was suddenly outside our house without having gone through the
attic. I sped at a high clip farther into the sky and saw the earth as a planet.
It was very beautiful though a little on the dark side. I stopped to observe.
Then everything went on again, fast. The vastness of the Universe began to
shrink. The entire universe curved in on itself until it became a ball and then
it disappeared into the distance. Darkness. Suddenly I understood the reality of
my situation. I was on the other side. In the next instant I was standing on a
boulder or a stone-like desert. The sun was shining mildly on my face. It felt
comfortable. I still was wearing my pajamas. I knew instinctively in which
direction to go. (I was in the middle of a large monotonous desert with nothing
specific to see.) Movement without the body worked really well. After a while
(it seemed that there was a way to measure sequences of time but it�s not the
way we know time here) I arrived at a large city. It had massive walls and lots
of entryways. Intervals. The walls were made of grey-sandstone material and went
well with the desert. I went through the entryway before me, as though I were
entering my own house. The two sentinels that stood there frightened me. I felt
as though I was a young child. The sentinels looked at me and said, Hey what are
you doing here? Go back home. Until this moment
I thought I was dreaming the whole thing, but the seriousness in their voices
made it very clear that this was real. I was no longer lying in bed, at home.
Suddenly and old man came. He was wearing a comical nightdress (now I know that
it resembled a typical hospital gown). He passed me by and went smiling
towards my doorway. The sentinels drew back and the massive doors opened. I saw
an intense warm light and heard pleasant music which was in absolute harmony. It
was a place of palpable tangible love. A place of welcome, of feeling absolutely
at home. I understood what it meant to be home. No question, just absolute
acceptance. Belonging. I moved
so that I could quickly get to the light. But before I made to the door one of
the sentinels grabbed me and held me fast. The doors closed. Next I found myself
in some kind of courtroom. Before me sat an unbelievably stern all-powerful yet
very kind judge. Absolutely incorruptible. Duty and person were one and the
person didn't exist without the duty. I sat on a bench and near me was a friend
or defender. Great love emanated from him. Was it Jesus? The judge asked me:
What are you doing here? I was overcome with fear and wanted to wake up but that
didn't happen. I thought about it and remembered that I had wanted to die. At
the same moment that I knew this, so did the judge. I felt his mercy and it was
like balm for my soul. I realized he wasn't at all angry. I learned how to
distinguish between power and anger. The judge thought for a while and said: But
you have a mission. In this moment I saw all the people (of my era?) with their
unique destinies as a great mosaic, and my destiny was intertwined in that
mosaic. The harmony of all these destinies together was amazing. I knew that if
my own destiny failed then the harmony of the whole would be destroyed. I knew
that I had to fulfill my destiny. The shirt was closer to me than the jacket. I
did not want to return to the hell that is the reality of being on earth. But
the judge determined in his objective way: You must go back! This pronouncement
happened at the same time that I disappeared from the courtroom. I was once
again before the city, then for a short time in the darkness, and then I rushed
with breathtaking speed back through the universe directly back to earth and
into my body. I noticed that something unpleasant was shaking my shoulder. It
was my mother who had come in one more time (by coincidence?) to check on us and
had noticed that I was no longer breathing. She screamed at me: "Breathe
daughter," "You must breathe." Her voice was full of panic. I felt bad because
of her pain and brought myself back from my deep peace. I tried to breathe but
could only muster a rustling. I could barely take a breath. From the lightness
of being returned the heaviness of the physical body. We lived in Eastern
Germany. There were no ambulances. My parents called a taxi at the neighbor's
house since we didn't have a phone and our car wasn't working. The rattle of my
breathing was upsetting the taxi driver and he told me to stay still and quiet
otherwise he wasn't going to drive us. That's how I got to the hospital. They
gave me a lot of shots. There were no inhalers so they put my bed by an open
window. It was autumn and cool outside. Someone put a hat on me. I found it
especially unkind that no one had thought of putting a hat on me during the
whole time that I was in such danger. After three days they discharged me.
Diagnosis: the croup.
Was
the kind of experience difficult to express in words?
Yes Yes I found it impossible to
speak about this for a long time, I studied philosophy The experience was
real, the memory of the other world is more real than present physical
memories.
Ich
sah mich friedlich im Bett liegen. Au�erdem habe ich noch meinen Bruder
ebenfalls auf der Seite liegend schlafend in seinem Bett rechtwinkelig zu meinem
Bett schlafen sehen. Ich fand es zun�chst noch sehr spa�ig denn ich hatte noch
nie so einen interesseanten Traum gehabt. Irgendwie stimmte etwas mit meiner
Bewegung nicht. Es ging zu schnell. Ich erkannte, dass wollen gleich Bewegung
ist. Es gab keine verz�gerung durch den K�rper. Ich f�hlte mich sehr frei und
seltsam rein. Ich begann pl�tzlich langsam in Richtung Zimmerdecke zu steigen.
Ich wei� noch wie ich mich gruselte weil ich der Meinung war gleich durch
unseren dunkelen Trockenboden zu schweben. (ich ja erst vier)
Als
ich aber die Zimmerdecke erreichte, war ich pl�tzlich au�erhalb unseres
Wohnhauses ohne den Trockenboden zu passieren. Ich raste mit hohem Tempo weiter
gen Himmel und sah die Erde als Planet. Es war sehr sch�n obwohl es ziemlich
dunkel war. Ich hielt inne um zu betrachten. Dann ging es sehr schnell weiter.
Die Weiten des Universums begannen zu schrumpfen. Das gesammte Universum kr�mmte
sich in einer Kugel in sich zusammen und verschwand in der Ferne. Dunkelheit.
Pl�tzlich klappte ich wie im Rechten Winkel zu der mich umgebenden Wirklichkeit
heraus. Ich war nun jenseits dazu. Im n�chsten Augenblick stand ich auf einer
Ger�ll oder Steinw�ste. Die Sonne schien mir milde ins Gesicht. Es war angenehm.
Ich war immer noch mit mein Schlafanzug bekleidet. Ich wu�te instinktiv welche
Richtung ich einzuschlagen hatte. (Es war weit und breit eint�nige W�ste und
nichts zu sehen) Die Bewegung ohne K�rper klappte nun schon sehr gut. Nach einer
Weile (es existierte irgend eine Form von Verlauf die nicht Zeit ist) bin ich an
eine Gro�e Stadt angekommen. Sie hatte gewaltige Mauern und viele Tore in regelm.
Abst�nden. Die Farbe der Mauern war grau- sandsteinfarben und pa�te gut zur
W�ste. Ich ging auf das mir zustehende Tor, so wie man in sein eigenen Haus geht,
zu. Die zwei Wachen welche davor standen wirkten auf mich �u�erst brutal. Ich
hatte die Ausdehnung eines Kleinkindes. Sie blickten mich an und sagten. Hey was
hast Du hier zu suchen? Geh wieder nach Hause.
Bis
zu diesem Zeitpunkt war ich der Meinung zu tr�umen, der Ernst in ihren Stimmen
machte mir aber deutlich, dass es real war. Ich lag nicht mehr zu Hause im Bett.
Pl�tzlich kam ein alter Mann in einem komischen Nachthemd (aus der heutigen
Sicht war es ein typisches Krankenhaushemd) und ging l�cheln an mir vorbei in
Richtung meinem Tor. Die Wachen glitten auseinander und die m�chtigen Torfl�gel
�ffneten sich. Ich erblickte ein intensives warmes Licht und h�rte eine
angenehme Musik welche in absoluter Harmonie dazu war. Es war ein Ort greifbarer
Liebe. Ein Ort des ankommens, des absoluten zu Hause seins. Ich begriff was zu
Hause sein bedeutet. Keine infrage stellen absolute An- und Aufnahme.
Dazugeh�ren. Ich bewegte mich so schnell ich konnte auf dieses Licht zu. Doch
bevor ich das Tor passieren konnte wurde ich von einem der beiden Wachen
festgehalten. Die Torfl�gel gingen zu. Als n�chstes befand ich mich in einer Art
Verhandlungs oder Gerichtsaal. Vor mir sa� ein unglaublich w�rdiger
�berm�chtiger aber sehr g�tiger Richter. Absolut unbestechlich.
Amt
und Person war eins und nicht W�rde der Person qua Amt. Ich sa� auf einer Bank
und neben mir ein Freud oder Verteidiger. Intensive Liebe ging von ihm aus. War
es Jesus? Der Richter fragte mich: Was machst Du hier? Ich bekahm ein irgendwie
Furcht und wollte erwachen ging aber nicht. Ich �berlegte und wurde mir gewahr
dass ich sterben wollte. Im selben Augenblick in dem ich mir dessen bewu�t wurde,
wu�te es auch der Richter. Ich f�hlte sein Mitleid wie ein Pflaster auf meiner
Seele. Ich merkte so b�se ist der gar nicht. Ich lernte Macht von B�sartigkeit
zu trennen. Der Richter dachte eine Weile nach und sagte: Aber Du hast doch eine
Aufgabe. In diesem Augenblick sah ich alle Menschen (meiner Zeit?) mit sammt
ihren jewaligen Lebenswegen als eine Art zeitliches Mosaik mit meinem eigen
Lebensweg mitten drin, vor meinem geistigen Auge. Die Harmonie aller Lebenswege
zusammen war unglaublich. Ich sah ein, dass mein eigenes Leben als Mosaikteil
fehlen w�rde und so die Harmonie st�ren w�rde. Ich sah ein, dass ich mein
Lebenslauf vollenden mu�te. Das Hemd war mir jedoch n�her als die Jacke. Ich
wollte nicht zur�ck in die H�lle der Realit�t der Erde. Doch der Richter stellte
fast sachlich fest: Du mu�t zur�ck! Diese Feststellung fiel zusammen (zeitlich)
mit meinem Verschwinden aus diesem Gerichtssaal. Ich war wieder vor der Stadt,
kurze Zeit in der Dunkelheit und raste mit atemberaubenden Tempo zur�ck ins
Universum direkt zur�ck auf die Erde in meinen K�rper. Ich merkte da� etwas
unangenehm an meine Schulter r�ttelte. Es war meine Mutter die zuf�llig? noch
einmal nach uns geschaut hatte und bemerkte, dass ich nicht mehr atmetete. Sie
schrie mich an: "atme Junge", "Du mu�t atmen" Ihre Stimme war voller Panik! Das
machte mir angst und holte mich aus meinem tiefen Frieden. Ich versuchte zu
atmen, bekahm aber nur ein R�cheln hin. Das Atmen fiel mir sehr schwer.
Aus
die Leichtigkeit des Seins und die Schwere des K�rpers war wieder da. Wir lebten
in der DDR. Ein Krankenwagen war nicht zu bekommen. Meine Eltern riefen ein
Taxi, bei Nachbarn denn wir hatten kein Telephon und unser Auto war gerade
kaputt. Dem Taxifahrer machte mein rasselnder Atem angst und er sagte ich m�sse
ruhig sein oder er w�rde uns nicht fahren. So wurde ich ins Krankenhaus gebracht
und bekam viele Spritzen. Man hatte wohl gerade kein Atemger�t und stellte mein
Bett deswegen an einem offenen Fenster. Es war Herbst und K�hl drau�en. Man
setzte mir eine M�tze auf. Ich empfand dies als sehr unsch�n, da man mir
einges�rft hatte keine fremden M�tzen aufzusetzen, wegen der �berall
grassierenden Lausgefahr. Nach drei Tagen wurde ich entlassen. Diagnose
Pseudokrupp.
At
the time of this experience, was there an associated life threatening event?
Yes Yes The Croup
At
what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness
and alertness?
While in front of the wall and when
the doors opened
How
did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience
compare to your normal every day consciousness and alertness?
More consciousness and alertness than normal
If
your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience was
different from your normal every day consciousness and alertness, please
explain:
Understanding without thinking,
instant streaming of self-knowing, being able to comprehend things in an
instant.
Did
your vision differ in any way from your normal, everyday vision (in any aspect,
such as clarity, field of vision, colors, brightness, depth perception degree of
solidness/transparency of objects, etc.)?
Yes
Did
your hearing differ in any way from your normal, everyday hearing (in any
aspect, such as clarity, ability to recognize source of sound, pitch, loudness,
etc.)?
Yes No noise only
sound but intrinsic with the actuality of the situation, for example when a gong
is hit the sound happens in that same moment
Did
you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?
Yes
What emotions did you feel during the experience?
absolute lightness,
freedom, freedom from burdens
Did
you pass into or through a tunnel or enclosure?
No
Did
you see a light?
Yes The light behind the door, see
above
Did
you meet or see any other beings?
Yes Judge, participant, sentinels,
old man
Did
you experience a review of past events in your life?
No
Did
you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience
that could be verified later?
No
Did
you see or visit any beautiful or otherwise distinctive locations, levels or
dimensions?
Yes The city, my real home.
Did
you have any sense of altered space or time?
Yes Time didn't play any role,
space didn't play any role, since I wasn't material.
Did
you have a sense of knowing special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?
Yes I saw the mosaic and
lived my mission but have forgotten both (can't describe them)
Did
you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure?
Yes several: edge of the bedroom,
edge of the influence of the earth, across the universe, darkness, other world.
Did
you become aware of future events?
Yes As I have the experience, I
know what it will be. This is also true for strangers. But there is no actual
pre-vision.
Did
you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience
you did not have prior to the experience?
Yes I can see through the outer
appearance of people
Have you shared this experience with others?
Yes For about 20 years, various
reactions, joy, fear, understanding and non-understanding
Did
you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience?
No
How
did you view the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it
happened:
Experience was definitely real
Were there one or several parts of the experience especially meaningful or
significant to you? Seeing the
light, the kindness of the judge, the whole experience, that there is a place
where I can go home to.
How
do you currently view the reality of your experience:
Experience was definitely real
See question 40.
Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your
experience?
Uncertain
Uncertain I was a child and
first had to grow up.
Have your religious beliefs/practices changed specifically as a result of your
experience?
No
Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life,
medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?
Yes Experiencing God in different
ways but always in my body.
Is
there anything else you would like to add concerning the experience?
No
Did
the questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and
comprehensively describe your experience?
Yes
Are
there any other questions we could ask to help you communicate your experience?
No
EXPERIENCE DESCRIPTION:
Ich war vier Jahre alt. Kurze Zeit vor diesem Ereignis hatte ich
eine sehr traumatische Erfahrung mit meinem Vater gemacht. (Er hatte zum Schein,
aus der Absicht mich zu disziplinieren, versucht mich auf einem Feld in der N�he
meines Wohnortes auszusetzen)Ich war total verunsichert und verst�rt. Ich wollte
nicht mehr Leben. NTE: Ich bin des Abends zusammen mit mein Bruder schlafen
gegangen. (Wir schliefen in einem gemeinsamen Raum). Ich bin mit dem Gesicht zur
Wand eingeschlafen und war aus irgend einem Grund abgrundtief traurig. Ich
beschloss nicht mehr zu leben. Ich atmete immer flacher und flacher bis ich
schlie�lich ganz aufh�rte. Als ich eine weile aufgeh�rt hatte, l�ste sich mein
Geist von meinem K�rper. Ich war der �berzeugung eingeschlafen zu sein. Mit
meinem Gesichtsfeld blickte ich nach unten (von ventral und dorsal zu sprechen
macht hier keinen Sinn).