Alain P
Experiences
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Experience description:
The following testimonials have been written by Alain, a
French professor of mathematics and postgraduate doctorate in probabilities, who
has been retired since 2010.
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The early 1970s was, for me, particularly rich in OBE, following a fast of
several days as recommended in the method of vegetarian Herbert Shelton that I
practiced for 2 years.
I want to clarify that I do not recommend this method at all, fasts over 24
hours may have not only adverse effects on physical health but also on mental
balance.
Given what follows, I think I must say that I considered myself agnostic before
this fast and the experiences that followed.
During the first OBE, after experiencing a state of catalepsy then a feeling of
vibration throughout the body and spinning, I found myself several times in the
room, fully aware that I was not in my physical body; but, after a few moments
when I felt a vitality and an almost childish joy, I reintegrated my body with a
tingling all over its surface.
Sometimes I wondered what I was doing there, out of my body, sensing that there
were other possibilities but not knowing which ones.
The sense of touch was particularly important.
Here are two examples
- during one of the first "outings", I stooped down to touch the carpet of the
room and I still have the memory of the sensation of its softness adding to the
observation of its golden yellow color as when she had just been asked (whereas
in physical reality she was already a little worn).
- having made a small injury to the left tibia a few days before, I remember,
during an OBE, having the idea to touch my shin to find out what it was in this
particular state and felt the presence of a crust but what is curious is that I
have no corresponding visual memory.
I would like to recount the experience for which I still feel, more than 40
years later, a strong emotion by reminding me.
I began to feel that I was at the ceiling, in the darkness, with the feeling of
being shaken by several beings, as if they wanted to "cleanse" me. The
impression was not very pleasant but it did not scare me because I felt kindness
in these beings that I felt like men of mature age.
Then having gone from "hands" to "hands", I heard a collective "ah" of
satisfaction and felt sucked up. I will not use the term (so much used now) as
"tunnel" because usually a tunnel is not vertical. I would rather say it was a
fairly narrow duct filled with a cottony and warm material. I had, at the moment
when I lived this experience, the thought that I was in a mill. I was no longer
in the dark, but in a whitish light. I felt very peaceful and confident. This
crossing made me have the effect of lasting about ten seconds but I felt as time
was much longer. Then, I found myself in the "open air" and on the "dry land". I
recognized the Notre-Dame cathedral in Paris, but the forecourt seemed smaller
than the current square. There were, on the North side, where the current Hôtel
Dieu is, small huts like in a carnival, but I cannot describe them because my
attention was immediately attracted by the arrival, by the south of the
forecourt, of my wife who welcomed me with great joy, followed by her mother.
Then my eyes rose to the sky which was deep blue (as is the case in a clear sky
a little before sunrise) and what I saw and felt then remains etched in me with
a deep emotion.
A group of dozens of stars, like a squadron in "tight formation" (as they say in
the aviation), were moving slowly, pouring a love like I had never felt. If I
refer to the setting in which I was located, I can say that they moved from East
to West, above the Seine (but looking up at the sky, I did not think to see if
the Seine was there). These stars did not twinkle but shone like the planets.
Smaller than Venus or Jupiter to the naked eye, it was closer to Mars but
silvery and not orange like Mars. Their movement was not uniform but proceeded
by successive impulses. I would compare this to the progress of a group of
swimmers peacefully using the breaststroke with a slight acceleration as the
arms and legs stretch.
I asked my wife, "What is it?"
She and especially my mother-in-law gently mocked me, finding it odd that I did
not know it.
I then understood that they were beings of a plane higher than the one where we
were who "went about their business", while spreading their love on the plane of
the "below", as flowers exhale their perfume.
Then my mother-in-law told me that she was going to make me a carrot calf, and
as I said above, I was a vegetarian for two years and I felt that if I wanted to
stay a little on this plan, I should have no critical thought in relation to
this invitation.
I then entered Notre-Dame through the left door and was able to take a few steps
down the aisle before quickly falling back into my physical body.
The following happened in our "everyday world": a few moments after the end of
this experience, I got up. It must have been five o'clock in the morning. The
sky was a blue very similar to my experience but ... without moving stars.
Then, tears of emotion flowed and a thought came to me:
"If you live your life as best you can, you can find this" place "..."
How many times in the next 42 years did I hope to see these stars again during
my OBE, but so far this has never happened again!
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I did not write it in this testimony, written in 2013, but I came back from this
"trip" with the impression that I was in front of Notre-Dame as it was in the
Middle Ages.
As I think about it now, I could have gone to a large library to consult
documents and check that without waiting for 48 years. But I did not do this.
I did not even get the idea to search the Internet from the moment it was
possible and yet, this question has always remained in a corner of my memory.
It is only at the end of 2017 that I obtained an image of the Parvis of
Notre-Dame in the Middle Ages.
The legend of this photo is: "On this bird's-eye view, it is possible to
discover the Parvis of Notre-Dame de Paris in the Middle Ages, narrower than
today, it hosted parties and markets."
N.B. This image reached me without doing research. I wrote to the Society from
where it came to ask permission to put it on a Facebook post. I received a
positive answer very quickly. This is how I learned that it was extracted from a
DVD dedicated to Paris Medieval and its creator was kind enough to give me this
permission, provided to add the address of the site. The caption was written by
the person who, without permission, extracted this photo, as well as others, but
still left the original reference.
The creator of the DVD, who spent a lot of time researching libraries, confirmed
the validity of what I had perceived in a "dream" 48 years before.
This image is at the end of the testimony.
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Here is an experiment dating from the end of the year 1985.
It is in related with a couple of friends of my parents, Alice and Dominique who
were 70 years old.
Dominique calls us one morning to ask us to come as soon as possible because his
wife was dead in the night.
My parents, my parents-in-laws, my wife and I were at his house in the next hour
and found him weeping.
I went to pray in the room, near Alice's body.
I had the impression that my jaw was twisting to the right and as soon as I
realized that this was what Alice had experienced (with anguish being unable to
call her husband for help). ), the feeling faded.
We had seen Alice and Dominique at my parents-in-law a week before and Alice,
apparently healthy, had spoken to me like she had never done, telling me that
she was not afraid of death but suffering.
She also told me that day that she loved "little Thérèse" (St. Therese of
Lisieux).
The night after her death, I heard Alice's voice sound like a radio going off
sharply. She said, "she's sad Alice."
I told her mentally: "You have to go up, little Therese is up there".
She said, "No, I'm waiting for my husband."
The next night, I felt "sucked up", and found myself in Alice's presence in my
parents-in-laws' garden (or rather in her portrayal of "the other world").
It must be said that, four years ago, we had a dispute with Dominique and Alice
and we stayed several months without talking to us; then we had returned but
without going back on the facts. On the plane where we were, I felt the need to
ask her forgiveness and she replied: "No it's me ..."
Then my eyes dipped into her eyes.
They were much blue and bigger than in her physical body.
I then experienced with intense emotion what could be a mutual forgiveness in
the spiritual world and deeply understood the expression that the eyes are the
mirror of the soul.
I felt that I would soon be reinstated in my physical body.
At that moment, she showed me a silver watch she wore on her wrist and said,
"It's my husband who gave it to me".
My last thought before leaving this plan was: "Where she is now, this watch is
not going to serve her much ..."
The next day, although my wife is reluctant to listen to parapsychological
experiences (not because she is skeptical but because it scares her a bit), I
told her what I had just experienced. She was very impressed because, some time
before her death, Alice had shown her the last gift from her husband: a silver
watch ...
I remember that she made this reflection: "So, it's true, one can think without
one's brain".
Two months later, having invited Dominique for Christmas, I tried to tell him
about the experience I had with his wife, but I quickly realized that he would
be deaf to this testimony.
At the end of January 1986, we learned that, having stopped taking his treatment
for the heart, Dominique had gone to join his wife.
It is then that, even if the time does not take place in the other world as in
this one, the sentence: "No, I wait for my husband" took much meaning..
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At the end of 2017, I "received" new elements likely to "validate" three
experiences that I lived more or less long ago and that we can qualify as
parapsychological, or even spiritual for at least the one of them, which you
have already read above, concerning Notre Dame of Paris.
I started sharing into three posts, for my Facebook French speaking friends and
two "special" groups in these areas and these posts were well received.
As the concomitance of the appearance of these three elements may have a more
general meaning than I originally thought and that some other Internet users
might be interested, I decided to make a public, sharing it in French, on the
01.30.18.
Then, I decided to translate it into English
Here are the two others elements.
The first one concerns a difficult subject, since it is about my father's
suicide, in 2003, at the age of 81 years.
Knowing how much my father preferred discretion, I hesitated to make a public
sharing, but, considering the new element described below, I do it as a tribute
to his memory, even if, from "his lifetime", he did not like the "paranormal".
At the end of 2017, I found, folded and slipped into a pocket of a folder, a
sheet dated from August 1996, where just after waking up after a "dream", I had
very rough sketched the plan of a building which, in my dream, was called
"Integration Center", with on the right side a street that I named, according to
the memory of my dream, "rue de la Rapée" and I was there indicated a subway
station at the bottom right. I put this sheet away without thinking about it
again.
Looking at this sheet, 21 years and a half later, I thought of the Forensic
Institute (Paris 12th) which is located on the Quai de la Rapée.
I went to see on the internet and was quite impressed because the shape of the
building is quite close. There is no subway station where I indicated but a
subway line goes well at this place.
It turns out that in August 1996 my father had a pulmonary embolism that almost
won. He battled with courage, suffered 3 bypasses and a bowel surgery for
cancer, but in 2003, the insulin treatment for diabetes he had just started was
the last straw. too much and he committed suicide.
And so it was at the Forensic Institute that we witnessed the laying of seals on
his coffin, at 11:11 ("mirror hour" on which my eyes were often asked, for
years) and that we left to Cemetery.
Some time before his departure, he told me: "I do not believe in all those
things you talk about with your mother". I looked at him "in the face" and said
gently: "You'll see daddy". He looked at me without saying anything, but I felt
that it had caught him ...
A month after his death, I had a "dream" where I saw him in great shape. He told
me, with great firmness: "if you want to see me again, you do not ask me
anything".
I realized that he should not be asked about his suicide. But I still asked him
a question about the furniture that a cook (to whom we handed the keys) was
installing in the small secondary home of my parents. He replied with his smile
a little malicious: "they are a little high". (my father was a cabinetmaker)
And indeed, my wife found that the furniture is too high ...
In the following years, my mother told me about several phenomena of moving
objects in his apartment.
P.S. It's strange, but since I gave this testimony on Facebook, I paid more
attention to the name given, in my "dream", to this medico-legal institute:
"Integration Center". Does not this mean that physical death permits the
integration of consciousness on other levels of existence?
I say that when I put quotation marks to the word "dream", it is because I
consider that when a "dream", even very old, remains engraved in our memory with
a sharpness stronger than many of our memories of the world. the state of
wakefulness, it is indeed an experience that can be described as
parapsychological, sometimes even spiritual (in the sense given to the word
"dream" in ancient times
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Here is the new element of the second experience.
I'm going to have to be very imprecise because it's about a fairly well-known
person whose identity I cannot afford to give.
I do not know if the "dream" took place before or after hearing about this
person for the first time, and moreover, I only made the connection between the
two facts recently.
In any case, both happened in the early 2000s.
At that time, I had a "dream" intense enough that I take note immediately after
waking.
I found myself in a cemetery but there was nothing morbid.
I felt good. There was the intense brightness of a sunny morning and I knew in
what region of France I was.
As soon as I woke up, I noted down the name of the city where the cemetery was
located, as I had memorized it, and sketched the drawing of a wrought iron gate
that I had seen there.
Regarding the person in question, I remember going on the Internet, when I was
told about him, to read his biography and it is not impossible that I could read
the name of the city where he is buried, but in my memory, this is not the case.
Recently, I had the idea to reread his biography.
I discovered the name of the city where this person is buried.
It suddenly reminded me of the name I wrote on this sheet, because although the
exact name is longer, it sounded quite the same.
On the Internet, I was able to find a photo of this person's grave and was
surprised to see, at the head of the tomb, a wrought iron gate, corresponding to
that of my "dream", such as that is engraved in my memory, even if it is a pity
that I cannot find this sheet anymore.
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Was the kind of experience
difficult to express in words?
Yes The intensity of colors and love
that poured down are not known here.
At the time of this experience, was
there an associated life threatening event?
Uncertain
I had fasted 8 days
What was your level of
consciousness and alertness during the experience?
Very conscious
Was the experience dream like in any way?
No, I remember it more than a
recent usual experience.
Did you experience a separation of
your consciousness from your body?
Yes I had a body but did not saw it.
What emotions did you feel during
the experience?
A great joy but
I felt I could not have thoughts of judgment if I wanted to stay on that plane a
little bit more
Did you hear any unusual sounds or
noises?
Yes, at the
beginning, with vibrations in all my body.
LOCATION DESCRIPTION:
Did you recognize any familiar locations or any locations from familiar
religious teachings or encounter any locations inhabited by incredible or
amazing creatures?
Yes I felt sucked up in a fairly narrow
duct filled with a cottony and warm material. I had, at the moment when I lived
this experience, the thought that I was in a mill. I was in a whitish light. I
felt very peaceful and confident. This crossing made me have the effect of
lasting about ten seconds but I felt as time was much longer. I arrived on the
Parvis of Notre-Dame of Paris, but I felt it was in the Middle Ages. I received
the proof 48 years later.
Did you see a light?
Yes
A group of dozens of stars, like a
squadron in 'tight formation' (as they say in the aviation), were moving slowly,
pouring a love like I had never felt.
These stars did not twinkle but shone like the planets. Their movement was not
uniform but proceeded by successive impulses. I would compare this to the
progress of a group of swimmers peacefully using the breaststroke with a slight
acceleration as the arms and legs stretch. I understood that they were beings of
a plane higher than the one where we were who 'went about their business', while
spreading their love on the plane of the 'below', as flowers exhale their
perfume.
Did you meet or see any other
beings?
Yes
Did you experiment while out of the
body or in another, altered state?
Yes
I
arrived on the Parvis of Notre-Dame of Paris, but I felt it was in the Middle
Ages. I received the proof 48 years later.
Did you observe or hear anything
regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?
Yes
Did you notice how your 5 senses
were working, and if so, how were they different?
Yes
In the experience related here, it was
very likely the usual senses.
Did you have any sense of altered
space or time?
Yes In the narrow duct, time seemed to
be modified. I felt out of time.
Did you have a sense of knowing,
special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?
Yes
I understood that these stars were beings
of a plane higher than the one where we were who 'went about their business',
while spreading their love on the plane of the 'below', as flowers exhale their
perfume.
Did you reach a boundary or
limiting physical structure?
No
Did you become aware of future
events?
Uncertain Not in this experience, but in
another one contained in my testimony. I saw the Forensic Institute in Paris 6
years before my father's body was put in coffin there.
Were you involved in or aware of a
decision regarding your return to the body?
Yes I knew I had to have no judgment in
mind. But entering in Notre Dame, I felt I couldn't not go farther and fell in
my physical body, with much tears of joy and emotions.
Did you have any psychic,
paranormal or other special gifts following the experience that you did not have
prior to the experience?
Yes I am
very sensitive and I lived a difficult experience of Kundalini in 1987.
Did you have any changes of
attitudes or beliefs following the experience?
Yes I became catholic several years
later.
How has the experience affected
your relationships? Daily life? Religious practices? Career choices?
It has modified many things in my
life. I was no longer agnostic. I could support my mother in law...
Has your life changed specifically
as a result of your experience?
Yes
Have you shared this experience
with others?
Yes I waited many years before sharing
my experience. Now, I give my testimony on Facebook. I don't if it make a change
in other's life. I think its just a water drop, which mixed with others can
become a sea.
What emotions did you experience
following your experience?
All my
perception of the meaning of life has been changed.
What was the best and worst part of
your experience?
All this
experience is a gift.
Is there anything else you would
like to add concerning the experience?
This experience
has been followed by many others, some of them are in my testimony. I thank you
for reading it.
Following the experience, have you
had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced
any part of the experience?
Uncertain I never reached such a high level.
Please offer any suggestions you
may have to improve this questionnaire.
I think it is a
very complete questionnaire.